MK1 (2023) Gameplay Mechanics Discussion

[xRantex]

I'm soo glad we can break the fatal blows mind blown

Sub zero and Sindel 50/50s annoyed me in MK11. Looks like Sub is less of a 50/50 mashing problem

No more krushing blows thank goodness all three are mass improvements for me.

However the damage scaling is the problem right now. 50% kenshi combos from Sonic fox !

 

[Kiss the Missile]

Sub zero and Sindel 50/50s annoyed me in MK11. Looks like Sub is less of a 50/50 mashing problem

He's more of one because he can use Kameos to keep himself safe.

 

[xRantex]

He's more of one because he can use Kameos to keep himself safe.

Everyone can do that that's the scary thing.. But ice ball slow start up and his over head is slower. That's what I liked so far.

 

[NoCharge]

At 9:58 Liu escapes a grab by backdashing. Are backdashes invincible again?

 

[Kreeg]

It's seems like kameo meter fulfilling must be a bit more time-consuming, about 1.5x-2x longer. Don't you think?

 

[Vslayer]

At 9:58 Liu escapes a grab by backdashing. Are backdashes invincible again?

No invincibility, he was just out of range.

It's seems like kameo meter fulfilling must be a bit more time-consuming, about 1.5x-2x longer. Don't you think?

No, that would restrict combos, especially for someone like Kitana who needs hers to extend them. We already lived through that with MK11 lmao.

 

[Darth-Nero]

just wanna appreciate them bringing back damaging meterless combos from mk9. i hope the days of "spend a meter to extend your combo to do 32% midscreen" are gone forever.

 

[Kreeg]

No, that would restrict combos, especially for someone like Kitana who needs hers to extend them.

Well, maybe it should be character/kameo specific.

 

[NoCharge]

No invincibility, he was just out of range.

Look at 9:05, definitely not out of range.

 

[Juggs]

I'm soo glad we can break the fatal blows mind blown

Sub zero and Sindel 50/50s annoyed me in MK11. Looks like Sub is less of a 50/50 mashing problem

No more krushing blows thank goodness all three are mass improvements for me.

However the damage scaling is the problem right now. 50% kenshi combos from Sonic fox !

To be clear, you can only break a fatal blow if it is combo’d into, and you also can’t break mid fatal blow. You have to break, afaik, on the first hit after the fatal blow is activated (and again, it being combo’d into)

Also, I’m not stating or implying you didn’t know this. Just wanted to make it clear to everyone that you can’t break raw fatal blows (at least from everything I’ve seen and read/listened to).

 

[Kiss the Missile]

I hope that MK1 has some type of unbreakable damage. Even something as small as MKX where it let you grab juggled opponents, with the catch being they could still tech the throw

 

[Vslayer]

Look at 9:05, definitely not out of range.

Maybe be wrong but it just looks like the backdash was quicker than the throw

 

[kabelfritz]

i have seen multiple instances of people poking through ice clone now. might just be weird hitboxes but damn.

 

[humaneshadow]

my only issues is what Kameo's balance they can speed up little

 

[xRantex]

To be clear, you can only break a fatal blow if it is combo’d into, and you also can’t break mid fatal blow. You have to break, afaik, on the first hit after the fatal blow is activated (and again, it being combo’d into)

Also, I’m not stating or implying you didn’t know this. Just wanted to make it clear to everyone that you can’t break raw fatal blows (at least from everything I’ve seen and read/listened to).

Thanks yeah I didnt kno, glad you pointed that out

 

[Pizza]

 

[SaltShaker]

To be clear, you can only break a fatal blow if it is combo’d into, and you also can’t break mid fatal blow. You have to break, afaik, on the first hit after the fatal blow is activated (and again, it being combo’d into)

Also, I’m not stating or implying you didn’t know this. Just wanted to make it clear to everyone that you can’t break raw fatal blows (at least from everything I’ve seen and read/listened to).

I didn't know this, thanks for sharing.

 

[Dankster Morgan]

i have seen multiple instances of people poking through ice clone now. might just be weird hitboxes but damn.

He seems more well rounded at his base now. If a shittier clone means that he can still fight characters that navigate the clone, I'm ok with that tradeoff.

 

[Jynks]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687893049693581313

Apparently there is a new "punish" mechanism. Basically, the classic uppercut now leads to air combos I guess?

 

[Ilthuain]

Two bars, huh? Pretty expensive, but I suppose it'll be a good investment in certain situations.

 

[Jynks]

Two bars, huh? Pretty expensive, but I suppose it'll be a good investment in certain situations.

.... jump in is, historically, one of the most powerful things in all ok MK. Going into full combo... this will be huge... remember we also have flawless upblock as well.

 

[Ilthuain]

.... jump in is, historically, one of the most powerful things in all ok MK. Going into full combo... this will be huge... remember we also have flawless upblock as well.

Upblock seems like it's a better solution for jump ins. It costs less and likely leads to more damage.

SylverRye only mentions high attacks here. Does this also work against overheads?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687894550327488513

I guess we'll find out soon.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

Upblock seems like it's a better solution for jump ins. It costs less and likely leads to more damage.

SylverRye only mentions high attacks here. Does this also work against overheads?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1687894550327488513

I guess we'll find out soon.

I think its any punish

 

[Jynks]

Punish and flawless block are probably very different timing windows

 

[Ilthuain]

Punish and flawless block are probably very different timing windows

Upblock isn't a flawless block and the timing isn't difficult. IMO it's going to be the primary tool for blowing up predictable jump-ins.

This is very different tho, agreed. I think in most cases ducking a high and punishing with a traditional grounded punish will be more damaging and cheaper than this, but there still could be some properties we don't know. It's also nice because you can invest in the followup after the d2 hits, so even with what we know it'll still have some practical applications.