Vagrant, they are!....Quit talking shit and lets act like a community.....
That means nothing. Get "real." Consistency speaks for itself.Breaker uses CD Jr as a measure of excellence. Wafflez just beat CD jr 3 straight games in tournament.
Dude you get props for what you do, not what you could do. At a high level anyone can beat anyone, for example reo could beat everyone at evo but did he? no Pl won. That smoke guy gets enough credit for what he has done and thats it. How is it fair towards wafflez when he did all that shit to get the props he gets now. And execution level is almost irrelevant in this game because there is barely anything in this game that is hard to do. And the guy plays smoke, you dont need godlike execution for that.Okay fair enough that makes more sense than what anyone else even tried to justify (@GGA 16bit). However if you apply the science of observation and having first and second hand experience on the subject, you can tell that xSmokex has excution level no less than REO or CDjr. He pretty much polished Smoke in the community, and the kid gets no credit, why? Tourney resume? fuck that shit man, I know this game as well as REO or DoctrineDark but do I have a resume? hell no. I don't like this one dimensional way of looking at things and judging players and their skills based off of tourney resume. This is a video game, it's not real Martial Arts were you GOT TO prove your status by being formally challenged.
Okay fair enough that makes more sense than what anyone else even tried to justify (@GGA 16bit). However if you apply the science of observation and having first and second hand experience on the subject, you can tell that xSmokex has excution level no less than REO or CDjr. He pretty much polished Smoke in the community, and the kid gets no credit, why? Tourney resume? fuck that shit man, I know this game as well as REO or DoctrineDark but do I have a resume? hell no. I don't like this one dimensional way of looking at things and judging players and their skills based off of tourney resume. This is a video game, it's not real Martial Arts were you GOT TO prove your status by being formally challenged.
What I'm stating is that credit can be giving in diffrent perspectives, it's not all about your achivements. DoctrineDark discovered majority of Kabal tricks and gimmicks, is he as good as REO in competition? No. Should he not be recognized as a lead Kabal in the community? That's the point I was trying to get accross.Dude you get props for what you do, not what you could do. At a high level anyone can beat anyone, for example reo could beat everyone at evo but did he? no Pl won. That smoke guy gets enough credit for what he has done and thats it. How is it fair towards wafflez when he did all that shit to get the props he gets now. And execution level is almost irrelevant in this game because there is barely anything in this game that is hard to do. And the guy plays smoke, you dont need godlike execution for that.
I hope you feel somewhat proud of yourself. I'm sure you're a nice guy and think I'm an asshole but keep in mind most disagreements are caused due to misunderstanding.Lol, dumbass response to a very clear cut reply I gave, it's pretty obvious as most everyone's opinion on gauging success is by what you do, and it's just not video games. You probably failed to understand. Shut up already. And no one is discrediting xSmoke as a great Smoke player for his accomplishments, so what the hell are you even debating for.
And if you thought my response sounded "intelligent" you must not really be that bright at all. I wouldn't doubt it.
Alright, so you misunderstood then.I hope you feel somewhat proud of yourself. I'm sure you're a nice guy and think I'm an asshole but keep in mind most disagreements are caused due to misunderstanding.
It's not just about techs, xSmokex had honostly the best excution anyone has ever seen. I don't understand how excution being the most important skill in the game is not considered when comparing players. He is not a one time wonder why can't people understand this? This guy is the foxy of Canada, period.Alright, so you misunderstood than.
We are not debating on who found the most tech to determine the best Smoke, such as the DoctrineDark/Reo example you gave, people are saying. Sure all those other contributions to the MK community are recognized for what they are, but....
In the context of offline tournament Smoke players, Wafflez is currently the best.
Sure, for that one match, he did have amazing execution, doesn't mean he can or can not replicate it for however many offline tournaments he decides to go to in the future.It's not just about techs, xSmokex had honostly the best excution anyone has ever seen. I don't understand how excution being the most important skill in the game is not considered when comparing players. He is not a one time wonder why can't people understand this? This guy is the foxy of Canada, period.
You are?KT Smith has made more money playing MK:9 than m2dave has ever made. I think we know who the true winner is at the end of the day.
I actually just flat out disagree with your premise that xSmokex has better execution than Wafflez. The stream archives speak for themselves.It's not just about techs, xSmokex had honostly the best excution anyone has ever seen. I don't understand how excution being the most important skill in the game is not considered when comparing players. He is not a one time wonder why can't people understand this? This guy is the foxy of Canada, period.
Can't tell if you're being serious or just saying random shit for HypeOk. Let's face it. Canada has the best Kitana (@NeoRussel), the 2 best Ermacs (@k-frog and @zaf), the best Mileena (@jer), The best Smoke (@xSMoKEx), the best Cage (@Playpal), the best Cyrax (@w1nter warz). What we don't have is the thousands of dollars or the sponsorships that American players seem to have to get to American tournaments (since that is the only way to earn respect apparently) to whup your asses on a more regular basis.
So you just sit back and relax in your comfy chair, feeling all safe and powerful knowing that the truly better players will more than likely never have the chance to put you in your place because we just live too far away.
I'm trying too hard.
Because you canCan't tell if you're being serious or just saying random shit for Hype
why am i even getting into this conversation
ok, i got you then.Because you can
A little of both. Canada has some excellent players that are often overlooked simply because the American gaming scene is larger. And I'm not slamming American players, it's a simple numbers game. There are far more American players than there are CAnadian so of course more attention is paid since more majors happen in the US than anywhere else. The Amercian scene can support these events with their numbers where we can't.
Exactly my point. Have i ever proclaimed to be the messiah of Smoke like so many others in in this player claim to do? No. Have i whined about people not listing me as the best Smoke? No. So why the hell do some people have the need to publically blow me up, for literally doing dick all, when one of their team mates accomplishes something big? (and to an extent mine, Wafflez is undoubtedly amazing and i always listen to what he has to say, the Smoke community tries to work together) Be happy and celebrate instead of starting drama.We don't base who the best players are based off of why they can't go to tournaments... we base the best players off of their tournament results. xSmokex might be good, but if he isn't going to tournaments then nobody cares. It's sad that he can't go to tournaments... but tough luck. Maybe he's really good. Maybe he is. But who cares? You have to go and you have to win to be considered one of the best with your character. I guess people consider me a good Raiden, but I'll be damned if I try to pump myself up before I make top 8 at a major. So until then... tough luck for me. And yes, it is fair.
there is a lot of players on this community highly underratedok, i got you then.
i agree the players you listed are highly underrated