Lord Raiden General Discussion Thread

[Marlow]

not gonna lie, I'm getting a little nervous seeing these "40+% restand combo in customs!" videos flying around YT for other characters.

 

[Mandolore1123]

not gonna lie, I'm getting a little nervous seeing these "40+% restand combo in customs!" videos flying around YT for other characters.

Watch as they all disappear when 17/11 patch drops

 

[Mandolore1123]

speaking of tech that might disappear, B12~AMP float~3 does around 7-8% chip

 

[Marlow]

I really hope that stays. Raiden's never going to be that crazy combo rushdown yolo character, but if he can have a tool like that? That's what could keep him from slipping too far down the tier lists.

 

[Mandolore1123]

I love float so much. I just tried it out in some matches. I just need to shake the Raijin muscle memory of doing everything into DF2, and learn how to cancel F4 into the float because I can’t do it to save my ass

 

[Marlow]

The timing seems hard, although I think with enough practice it should get better. Personally I've found it's a lot easier to do off of hitting one button than ending a string with it. I can do B1 into float ok, but B12 into float is hard.

 

[Mandolore1123]

The timing seems hard, although I think with enough practice it should get better. Personally I've found it's a lot easier to do off of hitting one button than ending a string with it. I can do B1 into float ok, but B12 into float is hard.

I’m the exact opposite. To use it after strings you just time it later than you would for normal specials, but I can’t do it off single normals

 

[Mandolore1123]

I think for some MUs Raijin might still be useful because lightning strike DF2 is still so so so slow , and unsafe. Then again, can always just use TW :>

 

[Darth Mao]

I'm at the rank where I do F32 5 times in a row because my opponent doesn't know how to wakeup or block an overhead, and then accuses me of spamming the same combo.

I was already cursed for 5 minutes after punishing a wakeup FB, killing the opponent, and not having done Mercy when he asked. Funniest rage ever, dude was wild af

 

[Marlow]

speaking of tech that might disappear, B12~AMP float~3 does around 7-8% chip

What if you were to do 243~AMP float~3?

 

[Mandolore1123]

What if you were to do 243~AMP float~3?

Similar amounts I think

 

[Marlow]

Mustard doing a recap on all the custom moves for MK11:

Raiden starts at about 7:38 into the video. Always nice to get multiple opinions on moves. He does all the other characters too, so a good channel/series to check out to get a preview of what we might be seeing from other characters.

 

[Black Chapters]

I still say just combine Rod and Rolling Thunder and convert Lightning Storm into normal attacks, the teleport adds nothing

 

[Szkarad]

Mustard doing a recap on all the custom moves for MK11:

Raiden starts at about 7:38 into the video. Always nice to get multiple opinions on moves. He does all the other characters too, so a good channel/series to check out to get a preview of what we might be seeing from other characters.

What even the point of doing that a week before the patch that will rebalance half of them?

 

[Marlow]

What even the point of doing that a week before the patch that will rebalance half of them?

Get some familiarity with the moves. And get more content.

 

[Black Chapters]

What even the point of doing that a week before the patch that will rebalance half of them?

maybe hes thinking like me and thinks very little will change

 

[Mandolore1123]

So apparently S3 is unlocked now. We get to jail into is easily from D1, which means free +3/4/5 depending on how they block and the size of the hurt box

 

[Mandolore1123]

Updates upon my own preliminary labbing:

• S3 stiff whiffs on crouch block, but jails reliably off D1
• Summon Lightning (DB2) knockdown nerfed, now only +47 on hit instead of +51. AMP is only 29 instead of +33
• Lightning bolt (BF1) AMP hit advantage reduced to +28 if delayed and +30 if not delayed instead of +35
• Lightning strike (DF2) slightly less unsafe, with far version being -22 instead of -29, AMP is -17
• Electric fly (BF3) knockdown nerfed to +30 and AMP is +14
• Lightning storm (DU)

- Concentrated strike (1) nerfed to be -29 on block instead of -25, and is -4 on hit, the most plus I could get it is to be 0 if the bolt lands on their feet​

- AMP is negative 3 digits on hit AND on block​

- Stomp (3) is -4, but can still be made -1/0 if you cross up, and the hit advantage is +38 instead of +43​

• F32 knockdown nerfed to +41 instead of +44
• B14 is +1 but we are too far to use D1/D3 unless in the corner, if they FB the gap it becomes -9 with no pushback.
• D1 is +13 on hit, -6 on block, increased recovery (Raijin corner optimal combos considerable harder to do now)
• D3 is +16 on hit, -5 on block, increased recovery
• D4 +19 on hit

More to come as things progress

 

[Mandolore1123]

I think quick charge might have gotten nerfed. Before it was 1f startup with 33 recovery. Now it’s 34f startup and 33f recovery

 

[Black Chapters]

lol

 

[ruthlezz97]

Wait so on top of shit changes,they actually further nerfed him? Am I getting this right? Please tell me I am wrong.

 

[Trustful_Whale]

If Jacqui holds down she's completely immune to Super Bolt, whether blocking or not.

 

[ruthlezz97]

If Jacqui holds down she's completely immune to Super Bolt, whether blocking or not.

What are the chances this is not the full patch? Like,some changes are simply not implemented yet? This seems very,VERY underwhelming.

 

[Trustful_Whale]

What are the chances this is not the full patch? Like,some changes are simply not implemented yet? This seems very,VERY underwhelming.

According to Dizzy this is it, and nothing is coming tomorrow.

 

[ruthlezz97]

According to Dizzy this is it, and nothing is coming tomorrow.

Alright,thank you for the info. To add,this patch has been disappointing to me,although I kinda like Super Bolt combos and B14 change. I am just not sure if its worth coming back lol