Liu Kang Discussion Thread

[Careerpancakes]

What are the community's thoughts on his damage buff / teleport stance? It's freakin fun to use IMO, in my limited Kang use I've caused a couple rage quits lol.

I don’t use it unless I now the match up is zone heavy. Low fireball and parry are too good to give up without a reason. Energy parry is pretty booty.

 

[xQUANTUMx]

parry and low fireball too good to give up in most matches I find, ya.

 

[RM_Gamer]

So you can fb ex low fireball and the u3. Does this make liu bottom 5?

 

[3kCle]

So you can fb ex low fireball and the u3. Does this make liu bottom 5?

Definitely not. Just end the string at f43 and block and punish. Also f3333xxfireball or shaolin stance low is a preferable blockstring in many situations because there is no gap. It's especially good after you hit a d1 or if they have no defensive bar on wakeup.

Also, Ive been meaning to test whether or not f43xxhigh fireball catches the startup of fb's. I believe it starts 1 or 2 frames faster (could be wrong).

 

[StormGoddess]

Fire God Liu Kang skin is available now in the
Shang Tower

 

[MKF30]

Got the Fire God Blue from the Gauntlet which was a freaking grind let me tell ya lol, I feel so happy because most players don't have it because they won't make it through that shit lol. I did it in 3 days straight of grinding, a pain in the ass lol. The red one from Shang was a breeze in comparison, it's cool but I'll use the Gauntlet one to make people jelly once they see it! hehe.

BTW, I use his Wu Shi variation, imo very underrated. I enjoy it a lot.

 

[xQUANTUMx]

@MKF30 what's so good about it? legit question, not a troll

 

[Xentex]

It's a cool skin there in the Shang tower, but don't those of us who finished the gauntlet already have access to that skin by using the blue one and then using the Start key to start the match?

And I imagine if you select this one and then use the Start key you'll end up sporting the Gauntlet one, which isn't really a big deal but it kind of diminishes all the pain/tedium of running the whole gauntlet.

 

[MKF30]

@MKF30 what's so good about it? legit question, not a troll

His teleport stance gives him a slight buff damage wise to any of his fire moves which are fireball and flying kick, more damage is always good. And his teleport moves are fast and all different as one is overhead, high and a low. I've confused the hell out of people mixing them up from a far. In Dragon, he also has a projectile parry that stuffs out zoning tactics against him. I know his other variation is way more popular, has the general parry, low fireball etc I just enjoy wu shi and do better personally with that style.

 

[Careerpancakes]

His teleport stance gives him a slight buff damage wise to any of his fire moves which are fireball and flying kick, more damage is always good.

It buffs all attacks.

 

[MKF30]

It buffs all attacks.

I know...but his fire specials attacks are higher

 

[xQUANTUMx]

@MKF30 would this work decently against cetribitch?

 

[RAYBAANN]

The buff is SAFER than Luohan Quan's cancel...proofs?

In Luohan Quan, B12 + Shaolin Stance Cancel (on second hit) = -12 on block

In Wu Shi Legend, B12 + DB4 (on second hit) = -8 on block

I enjoy more doing pressure with the teleport variation...

 

[xQUANTUMx]

well shit guys, I just might have to mess with this now

 

[MKF30]

@MKF30 would this work decently against cetribitch?

Honestly, worth a try but to be honest from my experience I couldn't say either way since I haven't faced any Cetrions in ranked lol. Not one. He loses the low fireball and the general parry but still has the projectile parry. He's fun!

 

[OutworldKeith]

How would LK mains rate his offense?

Which tournament variation is better?

I need a rushdown character.

 

[Kiss the Missile]

How do you guys handle the Jax and Jaqui matchups?

 

[Parasurama]

Honestly, worth a try but to be honest from my experience I couldn't say either way since I haven't faced any Cetrions in ranked lol. Not one. He loses the low fireball and the general parry but still has the projectile parry. He's fun!

Do you find that projectile parry is actually useful? It doesn't look very useful

 

[Kindred]

FACT: 12 string is composed of two high hits

FACT: High hits will hit if the opponent is crouch blocking and will whiff if the opponent is neutral crouching

Fun Fact: Depending on your stance, the second hit (the 2) will either whiff or hit a crouch blocking opponent.

Hey NRS, Fix your gameeeeee

 

[Careerpancakes]

How do you guys handle the Jax and Jaqui matchups?

Zone both of them out as much as possible. Low fireball is better for keeping Jaqcui away while the teleport stops Jax from counter zoning with heat missiles.

 

[MKF30]

I just wish LK had a better mix up with hit's to lows, I feel everyone knows to block low with his kick starters now. I do get people with his B2, D2 string when mixed up with his kicking strings. His F2 is ok. Good for juggles if connected.

Do you find that projectile parry is actually useful? It doesn't look very useful

Occasionally lol, not all the time but it does come out fast I just think the arc is kind of weird like he's hitting up almost like an Anti Air.

 

[Parasurama]

How do you guys handle the Jax and Jaqui matchups?

I just wish LK had a better mix up with hit's to lows, I feel everyone knows to block low with his kick starters now. I do get people with his B2, D2 string when mixed up with his kicking strings. His F2 is ok. Good for juggles if connected.



Occasionally lol, not all the time but it does come out fast I just think the arc is kind of weird like he's hitting up almost like an Anti Air.

I feel they had a plan for Liu Kang and the nerfs came early for him without any thought.
F2 into a punishable high - why... How does it make sense? The F43 u3 string had a flawless block gap with a different mind game.

It is what it is - I wish they could fix F2 to have another purpose than being in combos. ALSO Wushi Legend that projectile parry...perhaps allow the anti air potential you see or allow it as a safe special strike or allow it to contest zoning....

 

[Kindred]

How do you guys handle the Jax and Jaqui matchups?

You can zone jacqui if you dont want to deal with her upclose, but wheres the fun in that.
I like to stay in their faces. Jacqui being the better rushdown character is difficult. As for Jax, definitely not as good as Jacqui up close but harder to zone so I stay in his face. and mix it up with my tools

Those MUs are heavily based on reads I find.

I just wish LK had a better mix up with hit's to lows, I feel everyone knows to block low with his kick starters now. I do get people with his B2, D2 string when mixed up with his kicking strings. His F2 is ok. Good for juggles if connected.

Yea people always block low, so I grab lol. But the good thing with LK is you can cancel most of his moves into a Stance. So if they know B2D2 ends in a low, I cancel into Stance after B2 and do the overhead.
Or I'll fuck up the opponent's timing by canceling into the Stance after F4 instead of F43.
Or I'll do B3 into stance overhead

The possibilities with this character oh my!

 

[MKF30]

You can zone jacqui if you dont want to deal with her upclose, but wheres the fun in that.
I like to stay in their faces. Jacqui being the better rushdown character is difficult. As for Jax, definitely not as good as Jacqui up close but harder to zone so I stay in his face. and mix it up with my tools

Those MUs are heavily based on reads I find.



Yea people always block low, so I grab lol. But the good thing with LK is you can cancel most of his moves into a Stance. So if they know B2D2 ends in a low, I cancel into Stance after B2 and do the overhead.
Or I'll fuck up the opponent's timing by canceling into the Stance after F4 instead of F43.
Or I'll do B3 into stance overhead

The possibilities with this character oh my!

True, i also grab lol it's good to fool them. I use his other style so I have to play a little differently with the cancelling after b2

 

[xQUANTUMx]

True, i also grab lol it's good to fool them. I use his other style so I have to play a little differently with the cancelling after b2

what strings are you cancelling out of? It's -8 right?