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Tech - Kung Lao Kung Lao MK9 Spin is Back (8/31/15 Patch Discussion)

coolwhip

Master
Edit: CAN AA on reaction without meter now, that's the only buff he needed.
You could do that in many match-ups with standing 1 anyway.

Anyway, I wouldn't say he got his mk9 spin back because this would imply it doesn't get beaten by jump kicks and even jump punches sometimes.
 

XxDark_

Mortal
Holy shit that's huge. Wasn't the thing that brought tempest into the limelight intially?
yea the hat pressure was a big part of his game. now you have way more options out of it. but you still have to be careful which option you use to get out
 

LeftOverShark

Tick Throw Specialist
he is not balanced! he is mid tier now! they took alway the pressure and the damage, the only thing left is a 2 frames link to combo into what? 30% omg
Really?!?! This is terrible. I put so much time and effort into tempest lao. I will probably drop him and pick up someone else until KP2 realeses. RIP tempest lao :(:(:(
 

XxDark_

Mortal
Really?!?! This is terrible. I put so much time and effort into tempest lao. I will probably drop him and pick up someone else until KP2 realeses. RIP tempest lao :(:(:(
he's not completely dead. its just gonna become more of a guessing game after the hat pressure because there are more options to escape it..but I always preferred buzzsaw over tempest anyways.
 

looktotheluna

Apprentice
PL REVENGE ITS ON THE PLAN

But lets be honest , Lao is an OP char and don't deserves more Buff , online Lao is like a disiase every one wanna be the PL or the Foxyy grampa .... its so stupid , lao makes every one goes full salt
Looks like you're salty. Lao is fine and is not as dirty as some of the cast.
 

LeftOverShark

Tick Throw Specialist
he's not completely dead. its just gonna become more of a guessing game after the hat pressure because there are more options to escape it..but I always preferred buzzsaw over tempest anyways.
I know, but damage output... Its already hard to link 44 into hatspin and now make it slightly weaker? I remember when lao was hitting like 42 meterless. I wasn't even playing him then.
 

XxDark_

Mortal
This is what happens when ppl complain about a character that they didn't know how to deal with. not saying he didn't need slight adjustments. but this definitely wasn't the right way to go about doing it.
 

coolwhip

Master
This is what happens when ppl complain about a character that they didn't know how to deal with. not saying he didn't need slight adjustments. but this definitely wasn't the right way to go about doing it.
They toned down tempest and made buzz-saw better. Fair trade. What's your problem? I have some issues with this patch but the Lao changes aren't among them.
 

looktotheluna

Apprentice
So with the new pushback is his 112124 ex hat block string gone or just harder to do?

Also is Tempest Lao's average damage around 32-34% now?
Slight nerf to damage, 33% is now 32%, 46% is now 44%, etc. You can still do the string but they can easily react a bit more faster now. Same as before 112124 ex hat (on block), RC, 11212, etc, yet you have to work harder from what I see. Could be wrong, as I have not tested it fully.
 

XxDark_

Mortal
I know, but damage output... Its already hard to link 44 into hatspin and now make it slightly weaker? I remember when lao was hitting like 42 meterless. I wasn't even playing him then.
I can live with the damage output. he still will have the hat pressure off of a hard knockdown which is good. and I don't have to much trouble with the 44 link after the hat spin. we just gonna have to work harder to apply pressure with tempest. but I play more buzzsaw than anything. so its just gonna be matchup dependent
 

XxDark_

Mortal
They toned down tempest and made buzz-saw better. Fair trade. What's your problem? I have some issues with this patch but the Lao changes aren't among them.
the problem is the way they toned him down. im not denying that he needed adjustments. its just I don't think this was the way to do it. and regardless I main buzzsaw from the start anyways.. it was just nice to have another variation that was good to use
 

coolwhip

Master
the problem is the way they toned him down. im not denying that he needed adjustments. its just I don't think this was the way to do it. and regardless I main buzzsaw from the start anyways.. it was just nice to have another variation that was good to use
On paper, the nerfs sounded reasonable to me. We'll see how it translates in practice.
 

DDTECH

H8TR MKR
So far, pressure seems fine.. Went 32 and 3 in koth yesterday.. If anything, laos movement seems more flawless now, to me.. Damage nerf was needed, the guy is one of the fastest in the game.. And honestly could produce pressure no matter what.
 

XxDark_

Mortal
So far, pressure seems fine.. Went 32 and 3 in koth yesterday.. If anything, laos movement seems more flawless now, to me.. Damage nerf was needed, the guy is one of the fastest in the game.. And honestly could produce pressure no matter what.
he"s one of the most mobile yes. but he doesn't have the fastest strings. and any of his useful strings have a gap in them besides 112124. I can live with the damage nerf but he just doesn't apply pressure the same
 

DDTECH

H8TR MKR
Theres a slight gap between the hat spin after chain fist, but majority of the players wont understand how to take advantage of it..

And i think youll get used to it. I like the push back.
 

XxDark_

Mortal
Theres a slight gap between the hat spin after chain fist, but majority of the players wont understand how to take advantage of it..

And i think youll get used to it. I like the push back.
I always mained buzzsaw anyways so im not gonna worry about it to much. ill just find another way to apply pressure in tempest.
 

Hara-Killer

Reverse Salt
Looks like you're salty. Lao is fine and is not as dirty as some of the cast.
yes i'm salty , but for real , Lao is OP man NRS make him stupid OP since MK 9 , that disgraceful Spin saves him and open for HUGE COMBOS , we cant pressure Lao , we cant jump ,we can zooning (stupid teleport too) .

Ok im not pro player but

Kung lao
Goro
Scorpion
Tremor (Metalic)
Raiden

allways make me FULL RAGE , Reptile cant do allmost nothing against these Demons