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Kung Jin is MK's first Gay character

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RexxyC

RexxyC

what's done is done
THTB said:
The reason people celebrate it is because it's something that society still has an issue with, and they shouldn't. I mean, look at the Indiana law fiasco that's currently going on. People are outraged because it's pulling us backwards as a society, and people still don't accept gay people, despite the fact that someone being gay has zero effect on anyone else. It's just a big thing and a huge step when a gay character is introduced, since the representation is still rather small. It's an even crazier introduction because Kung Jin is also a Shaolin monk.

I will say, though, seeing people say "who cares" is much more preferred than "this is stupid/wrong/abominable/etc".
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Not all people are like that though
Tim Static said:
Just because you can have an opinion, doesnt make it right. The fact that there's never been a gay character in such a masculine kind of game like MK is a big deal. You can call it whatever the hell you want, but it doesn't mean that it is correct, but again, in a day in age when gay folks are treated like 2nd class human beings, it is a deal bigger than you, me, TYM, MK or gaming. It transcends that, just like when Rosa Parks refused to get up for a white person on a bus. Had history be reversed, the Civil Rights movements of decades ago and the one that exists now would be entirely different, as would be your opinion because you might have been the minority or persons who've been denied basic rights (like the ones expressed in the Declaration of Independence). This stuff you cannot argue.....but when you do, you come across weak minded, ignorant and hateful.

To everyone else: I'm stepping back from replying to posts in this thread, i'll just watch from afar. Don't like the thread content, don't bother commenting.
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You're right, just because you can have an opinion doesn't make it right. What exactly am I calling what? Also you would be wrong, in Dragon Age Inquisition, there's a character named The Iron Bull who you can pursue a homosexual relationship with, in fact, there's a laundry list of games with gay characters you could consider "masculine".

Here are a few:
  • Dragon Age Inquisition
  • Fallout 3
  • Mass Effect
  • Dragon Age Origins
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
Where are their articles and praise for including LGBT figures? You guys keep saying that gays are treated as second class human beings like it's a normal thing; and so far in my experiences with life everyone loves gay people. Just because a few states haven't legalized marriage doesn't mean everyone in the respective place hates them. Selective states and some people stuck in old times are the only ones who actually hate gay people. There will always be someone to oppose you, some people don't like straights; others dont like gays. Drop your holier than thou attitude because if I come across as weak minded and ignorant, we seem to have some stuff in common.
 
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seniorcuddlebuns

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haketh said:
Once again straight people please keep the "This isn't important" comments to yourself especially when we live in a world in which one of the leading "Civil" Countries in the world still has states that can legally fire us for being LGBT
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I do have to ask, not that I share this viewpoint but rather I'd like to propose a question: Do you think people stating "they don't care" is kind of normalizing being gay as just another aspect of humanity, or do you feel celebrating is what will make gay characters more acceptable?
 
RexxyC

RexxyC

what's done is done
TotteryManx said:
LOL, why do we try to have civil conversations about important topics on this forum? It never works out.
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I'm fairly new here, but it seems that some people can't accept others opinions on important matters, and would rather boil it down to calling people close minded. How ridiculous.
 
zydrate101

zydrate101

XBL: zydrate101
RexxyC said:
Not all people are like that though


You're right, just because you can have an opinion doesn't make it right. What exactly am I calling what? Also you would be wrong, in Dragon Age Inquisition, there's a character named The Iron Bull who you can pursue a homosexual relationship with, in fact, there's a laundry list of games with gay characters you could consider "masculine".

Here are a few:
  • Dragon Age Inquisition
  • Fallout 3
  • Mass Effect
  • Dragon Age Origins
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
Where are their articles and praise for including LGBT figures? You guys keep saying that gays are treated as second class human beings like it's a normal thing; and so far in my experiences with life everyone loves gay people. Just because a few states haven't legalized marriage doesn't mean everyone in the respective place hates them. Selective states and some people stuck in old times are the only ones who actually hate gay people. There will always be someone to oppose you, some people don't like straights; others dont like gays. Drop your holier than thou attitude because if I come across as weak minded and ignorant, we seem to have some stuff in common.
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Are you dense ?their were tons of articles on Dorian and the first trans character . I think you should probably look up facts before ya state cause the intelligence ain't running high . Bioware games are made in Canada an in my city we accept all kinds of people .
 
RexxyC

RexxyC

what's done is done
zydrate101 said:
Are you dense ?their were tons of articles on Dorian and the first trans character . I think you should probably look up facts before ya state cause the intelligence ain't running high . Bioware games are made in Canada an in my city we accept all kinds of people .
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He said masculine, I'm not talking about Dorian. I'm no longer responding to people who would rather insult than discuss. Take the door.
 
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seniorcuddlebuns

Noob
Lexithanius said:
Mentioning one's homosexuality in any capacity, at any point in time, ever=Shoving it down people's throats.
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Depends how they go about it. From the sound of it, the way they did it for Kung Jin sounds like a respectful and innocuous way to do it. No big song and dance about it, but they still communicated it. It's all about how big of a deal they make it to me. Sexuality hardly matters to a fighting game and in the context of the story unless it deals with love and sexuality, so the fact they didn't make it a big deal is fantastic. That is unlike Marvel or DC changing a characters ethnicity or sexuality then publicizing that. At that point it doesn't seem genuine.
 
SHARKY

SHARKY

Noob
I see hood race Latino black asain dudebro even an N word drop.
What troubles a Normy like me is the comparisons some of you look to for examples . I just feel like comparing it to a gangbanger (no pun) or some other life style dission would make more sense . I do find it offensive when people compare it to minoritys like race wise. Im aloud to think that right or Yea.
Hate is bad!
Astronaut & popcorn from here out .
 
Jeddite

Jeddite

Soul Kollector
zydrate101 said:
people aren't defined by their sexuality if it makes you uncomfortable thats a different story. Dorians was done perfectly you don't ever even have to find out about it.
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I disagree. Dorian's entire character was defined by his sexual identity, which is why his questline was so polarizing. It had nothing to do with comfort levels of homosexuality, which has always been prevelant in DA. It had everything to do with Dorian's entire person hood defining his existence and it was shallow.

Kung Jin is a hero who happens to be gay. Dorian was a gay man, who left his home because he was gay, and then fell into a heroic conflict. The former is simply preferred because the man was not defined by his sexuality.
 
Mikayel

Mikayel

Well-Known Gay Member
Tim Static said:
Just because you can have an opinion, doesnt make it right. The fact that there's never been a gay character in such a masculine kind of game like MK is a big deal. You can call it whatever the hell you want, but it doesn't mean that it is correct, but again, in a day in age when gay folks are treated like 2nd class human beings, it is a deal bigger than you, me, TYM, MK or gaming. It transcends that, just like when Rosa Parks refused to get up for a white person on a bus. Had history be reversed, the Civil Rights movements of decades ago and the one that exists now would be entirely different, as would be your opinion because you might have been the minority or persons who've been denied basic rights (like the ones expressed in the Declaration of Independence). This stuff you cannot argue.....but when you do, you come across weak minded, ignorant and hateful.

To everyone else: I'm stepping back from replying to posts in this thread, i'll just watch from afar. Don't like the thread content, don't bother commenting.
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I know you said don't comment but i just wanted to thank you for the amazing response and support. It IS a big deal specially for gays, because we don't get to play as a gay character in a game much.
And I am personally BEYOND happy coz MK was/is/will always be my favorite game ever and i have been waiting for them to have a gay character for years

And to people hating on this, I have ONE thing to say

 
Mikayel

Mikayel

Well-Known Gay Member
Jeddite said:
I disagree. Dorian's entire character was defined by his sexual identity, which is why his questline was so polarizing. It had nothing to do with comfort levels of homosexuality, which has always been prevelant in DA. It had everything to do with Dorian's entire person hood defining his existence and it was shallow.

Kung Jin is a hero who happens to be gay. Dorian was a gay man, who left his home because he was gay, and then fell into a heroic conflict. The former is simply preferred because the man was not defined by his sexuality.
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I am not gonna argue with you or anything coz i dont even know who the fuck Dorian even is, but I can tell you when you're gay, your sexuality IS a very big part of your life coz so many good and VERY BAD things can happen to you because of it.
Like being disowned by your own parents who are supposed to love you no matter what, being bullied in school and at home, hated, not being able to even hold hands in public coz you're scared of getting gay bashed.

Thus it can become a BIG part of your character and who you grow up to be and how you deal with things, it did for me!
But since i don't know Dorian, i can't tell you why was he presented whatever way he was presented xD
 
Mikayel

Mikayel

Well-Known Gay Member
RexxyC said:
Not all people are like that though


You're right, just because you can have an opinion doesn't make it right. What exactly am I calling what? Also you would be wrong, in Dragon Age Inquisition, there's a character named The Iron Bull who you can pursue a homosexual relationship with, in fact, there's a laundry list of games with gay characters you could consider "masculine".

Here are a few:
  • Dragon Age Inquisition
  • Fallout 3
  • Mass Effect
  • Dragon Age Origins
  • Metal Gear Solid 4
Where are their articles and praise for including LGBT figures? You guys keep saying that gays are treated as second class human beings like it's a normal thing; and so far in my experiences with life everyone loves gay people. Just because a few states haven't legalized marriage doesn't mean everyone in the respective place hates them. Selective states and some people stuck in old times are the only ones who actually hate gay people. There will always be someone to oppose you, some people don't like straights; others dont like gays. Drop your holier than thou attitude because if I come across as weak minded and ignorant, we seem to have some stuff in common.
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Pretty sure they did get praised....
And pretty sure one of them even got a GLAAD award lol
And your experience in life as a straight person who says everyone loves gay people doesn't count because it is simply not a reality, gay youth are still much more likely to be homeless coz they get disowned and thrown out, gay teens commit suicide because of homophobia, gay people still get bashed in the streets, gay people still get killed do i go on?
 
Mikayel

Mikayel

Well-Known Gay Member
SHARKY said:
I see hood race Latino black asain dudebro even an N word drop.
What troubles a Normy like me is the comparisons some of you look to for examples . I just feel like comparing it to a gangbanger (no pun) or some other life style dission would make more sense . I do find it offensive when people compare it to minoritys like race wise. Im aloud to think that right or Yea.
Hate is bad!
Astronaut & popcorn from here out .
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Well there is your problem, you still think it's some kind of lifestyle decision.
The ONLY decision you make about being gay is actually whether you wanna have sex or not (like any other person)
 
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