General M2Dave can you find a quote or somewhere where i have legitimately downplayed the flash? not obviously trolling in a stream chat or something stupid? you mention my name like i downplay one of the best characters in the damn game. i have always though he was top 5 and after the patch i think he is #5 right now in my opinion. the character now loses no MU more than 6-4 to any character. he goes 5-5 with supes and BA and batman now. i think he possibly beats MMH and aquaman when played correctly and beats characters like sinestro, raven, DS, zatanna, cyborg, grundy, and bane 6-4. the character is fucked up and am stunned that you would ever mention my name with downplayers like manny.