Match-up Discussion KILLER FROST - Official Community Match-Up Discussion

[RiBBz22]

In which match ups can killer frost slide on block and then parry if the opponent decides to poke with d1?

Every opponent that does not have a low d1.

 

[Madog32]

In which match ups can killer frost slide on block and then parry if the opponent decides to poke with d1?

all of them, unless its a low (like Ares)

 

[hunchy]

Every opponent that does not have a low d1.

Oh really I thought it was specific characters. Thanks.

 

[RiBBz22]

Oh really I thought it was specific characters. Thanks.

Nope, slide is -4 and parry is 1 frame so you are parrying on the 5th frame and no one has a 5 frame or better d1. So make chars without a low d1 respect it.

 

[The_Furax]

In which match ups can killer frost slide on block and then parry if the opponent decides to poke with d1?

All characters except Bane, Ares and Flash because their d1s hit slow. But you have other options in this case. I don't want to say you cannot parry off a slide on block but it's risky.

 

[kyle ogden]

In which match ups can killer frost slide on block and then parry if the opponent decides to poke with d1?

yes there are many options you can grab parry or dash back. the best block string in my case is f113 d1 slide Grab might work never tried it. She is an amazing character to play and her 50/50 is good.

 

[hunchy]

yes there are many options you can grab parry or dash back. the best block string in my case is f113 d1 slide Grab might work never tried it. She is an amazing character to play and her 50/50 is good.

I shall give that string a try thanks.

 

[RiBBz22]

All characters except Bane, Ares and Flash because their d1s hit slow. But you have other options in this case. I don't want to say you cannot parry off a slide on block but it's risky.

Deathstroke has a low D1 as well.

 

[The_Furax]

Deathstroke has a low D1 as well.

Yes, thanks Ribbz! I really forgot that one.

 

[kyle ogden]

Deathstroke has a low D1 as well.

You dont always want to slide due to it being blown up on reaction but it is a good footsie tool and learn the range to fool people and it can be used to trip guard also.

 

[kyle ogden]

I have played thousands of matches with multiple Supermans this is not a 5-5 MU its 3-7 or maybe even 3-7. I would like to chat about this MU with a couple of people...

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I have played thousands of matches with multiple Supermans this is not a 5-5 MU its 3-7 or maybe even 3-7. I would like to chat about this MU with a couple of people...

she punishes air lazer with slide, parry works amazing against f23, sm options zoning, b1 freeze. kf d2 is great for air dashing. her hitbox allows sm to whiff sometimes on divebomb, iceberg is useless, i would say that its a rough 5-5

 

[Rude]

she punishes air lazer with slide, parry works amazing against f23, sm options zoning, b1 freeze. kf d2 is great for air dashing. her hitbox allows sm to whiff sometimes on divebomb, iceberg is useless, i would say that its a rough 5-5

I agree with this statement, and I don't even play either character.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

I agree with this statement, and I don't even play either character.

neither do i.

 

[xKhaoTik]

I have played thousands of matches with multiple Supermans this is not a 5-5 MU its 3-7 or maybe even 3-7. I would like to chat about this MU with a couple of people...

Comments like this makes me wanna play the game again and prove people wrong...


Its 5-5 man. One of the most balanced MUs in the game.

 

[xKhaoTik]

she punishes air lazer with slide, parry works amazing against f23, sm options zoning, b1 freeze. kf d2 is great for air dashing. her hitbox allows sm to whiff sometimes on divebomb, iceberg is useless, i would say that its a rough 5-5

Iceberg isnt too useless. She can spike the start up of ground laser.

neither do i.

You are lucky you use frost. I can't stand that bitch HG. She's not welcome to our palace.

 

[astronout]

I have played thousands of matches with multiple Supermans this is not a 5-5 MU its 3-7 or maybe even 3-7. I would like to chat about this MU with a couple of people...

its an even, momentum based matchup where both characters have the necessary tools to deal with each other shenanigans. i've played this matchup more than a few times and have never once thought that it was at a disadvantage for Frost, let alone a 7-3 in Superman's favor. Martian Manhunter and Cyborg are 3-7's. Superman is not even close to having such an advantage.

 

[kyle ogden]

its an even, momentum based matchup where both characters have the necessary tools to deal with each other shenanigans. i've played this matchup more than a few times and have never once thought that it was at a disadvantage for Frost, let alone a 7-3 in Superman's favor. Martian Manhunter and Cyborg are 3-7's. Superman is not even close to having such an advantage.

All superman has to do is spam and KF has to work extra har for anything but i agree with what your saying.

 

[xKhaoTik]

All superman has to do is spam and KF has to work extra har for anything but i agree with what your saying.

Superman isn't "spamming" anything against Frost unless he has meter. Slide blows up air lasers and spike stops ground lasers

 

[kyle ogden]

Superman isn't "spamming" anything against Frost unless he has meter. Slide blows up air lasers and spike stops ground lasers

Ight thats my problem i never blow up air lasers and a fellow RM killer frost i love it lol.

 

[@MylesWright_]

she punishes air lazer with slide, parry works amazing against f23, sm options zoning, b1 freeze. kf d2 is great for air dashing. her hitbox allows sm to whiff sometimes on divebomb, iceberg is useless, i would say that its a rough 5-5

Who does lasers so high that slide can punish them in 2014? On paper it may seem even but in actuality it is not; people underestimate how good Supermans zoning actually is especially against a character like Killer Frost with awful mobility and although parry may make the superman player second question their f23 pressure it isn't like Killer Frost can do anything at that range anyway.

 

[Vak Phoenix]

Omg ure bk! Yay

Who does lasers so high that slide can punish them in 2014? On paper it may seem even but in actuality it is not; people underestimate how good Supermans zoning actually is especially against a character like Killer Frost with awful mobility and although parry may make the superman player second question their f23 pressure it isn't like Killer Frost can do anything at that range anyway.

 

[kyle ogden]

Who does lasers so high that slide can punish them in 2014? On paper it may seem even but in actuality it is not; people underestimate how good Supermans zoning actually is especially against a character like Killer Frost with awful mobility and although parry may make the superman player second question their f23 pressure it isn't like Killer Frost can do anything at that range anyway.

I agree

 

[Sultan]

My honest opinion is Superman can only be even on neutral stages like Batcave. On any stage where he can exploit interactables he's at a notable advantage. IMO: 5-5 on Batcave, 4-6 on numerous other stages. Since tournament standard is random select and he has a noteworthy advantage on the majority of stages, I can't see how this match-up is a blanket 5-5.

And it's not just Superman: Zod, B.Adam, even Lex - all match-ups that feel even on neutral stages, but Frost has a serious disadvantage on interactable heavy stages versus these characters and others. MMH, Hawkgirl and Cyborg obviously goes from bad to worse depending on the stage too.

We get bodied by stage selects often, that and a high execution barrier are the banes of Frost... also Bane's a bane too (jk, but seriously, fuck Bane).

 

[Pan1cMode]

I agree

You never want to agree with MylesWright. He's the resident idiot.

Superman is even, I say this after playing many sets against many different styles of superman. Unless he has meter his zoning isn't that threatening. KF also has spike and daggers to counteract mindless projectile abuse. You can jump/walk in on it. Up close, parry, MB f3 and b1 all allow her to compete in the footsie game. He can be annoying on certain stages but in general he's quite manageable.