I didn't care about the rest of the post, but god bless at least one Jacqui player knows what footsies are.
I'm not sure how old you are, but the only difference between now and back in the day is in today's world we have the power to make changes we couldn't back then. I had recently entered my tournament life back in Tekken 4, and I experienced first hand for what felt like an eternity Jin Kazama against some of the best players in the country. He had 1 bad MU, 3 even ones, and dominated the rest of the cast.
Oh yea man. I remember wreckingggg Red in a T5 DR tournament and his pride was so hurt that he ran to TekkenZaibatsu forum and started saying how Wang was OP (wasn't even my main it was a MU switch because I wasn't comfortable using Bryan against Lei) and how noobs can pick him up and place at high tourneys within days. Then since it was "him" some people started trying to say Wang was OP and people hadn't realized it yet. That he was secret top tier, etc. Wang. Really? Lol! Instead of giving me props for tearing him up he was too ashamed and blamed the character, to his friends and then on the forum.
I can't stand this type of behavior, and I'm relatively newer compared to many. I also have to add that now days they moan on social media on top of the old forums. And all their fuq boi's that follow them will parrot it because of who they are. It's actually rather irksome how much stock the FGC puts in "top players." What really does it for me vs. the above topic is the amount of people unable to form their own opinion because they're too lazy or dumb, or the worst of the worst is blind following of the group for purposes of preserving E-rep posterity.
Yeah, that's where plenty of us have been at. Some people think he needs less(Youph), some people think he needs more(Dave), but It's never been like people asked for the world here. I'm just happy that the Kano community has been largely respectful to each others opinions(Aside from the nuclear holocaust that is Salt Shaker vs Youphemism, and even that hasn't been all that vitriolic) while discussing what can and can't or should and shouldn't be done.
Who cares if it wouldn't make him top 10? Someone has to be mid tier, what's your problem with it being Kano? Why go the easy route of getting him buffed instead of just working on the matchups like Steve and Showtime and Flappy and I at least are doing? The thing that's making even less sense to me is why the majority of the people who've dropped the character for another are still complaining? They've made it clear they want to play other better/top tier characters yet somehow that isn't enough? What's the problem if you're not even playing him (most of the time anyway)? The Kanos that are sticking with him as a main are fine to do that because we think he's fine, he's not unviable or broken so what's the problem? Some of you want luxury buffs because it'd suit you and that's not a good enough reason. Fixes are fine, buffs aren't necessary because he doesn't lose every matchup and he isn't the worst in the game.
No it didn't, he doesn't play Commando Kano lol.
Well (and these are just a few examples) look at Kano's footsie tools compared to Raidens, Kano outshines him there. Kano can zone out/outzone D'Vorah and Jax pretty easily too. It's not about how many things the top tiers do better it's about what Kano can do that he does better than the top tiers. How he can control space well, how he has a great anti-air in a game where anti-airs are considered pretty shit in general, the damage he can do in Cutthroat and the stuff he can interrupt and punish with EX Buff into this damage, the armour-breaking zoning in Cybernetic, the 20% parries in Commando. So what if he's not the best character in the game? He works (mostly) and that should be enough, people shouldn't be relying on their character to win for them.
When you insinuate I think he needs less do you mean I think he should be nerfed or that you think I think he needs stuff but not as much as you guys are suggesting? And yes, Saltshaker and I, we cool
I don't mind Kano being mid tier, I just want him to be a permanently viable mid tier at worst. Not slipping down the ladder patch after patch. Not to go up against Top tiers and have to face uphill battles in the majority of the MU's. Not to be complacent with his current version until everyone masters MU's and sees how lesser his toolset is in comparison to so many cast members. It's true I don't play him nearly as much as before, but that's because I want to win, and Tanya is more suited for that. I want to play him more like I used to, but the time+reward is not on the same level as many other characters, so I had to make a decision. My main issue resides in if I can get destroyed against a Raptor's Takeda, and then switching to Tanya makes it competitive, there is a clear gap in the character.
So why not nerf them and have more fair characters than making more characters broke tier?
Unless you think NRS is nerfing the Top 15 within the next couple of patches that's unrealistic. You can either hope to get brought up (the Kenshi's), be left alone (the Kano's), or get slight nerfs but still be top tier (the Raiden's).
because NRS don't work that way lol
I've always been of the belief that it's better to buff than to nerf. Only bring down the most absurd stuff.
I'm just saying what would be a better option. I would rather have the top characters nerfed... than everyone else also being broken tier. Then the game is no fun fighting against any character.Unless you think NRS is nerfing the Top 15 within the next couple of patches that's unrealistic. You can either hope to get brought up (the Kenshi's), be left alone (the Kano's), or get slight nerfs but still be top tier (the Raiden's).
One of these is not like the others.
