Quan Chi? The Same?
Quan Chi? The Same?
still a 5-5, I couldn't see her having an advantage unless they magically brang a patch that gave her an armor wakeup. The big thing with sonya is that she can actually legitly pressure cage and has a safe armor move that gets her out of pressure. Kitana has neither of those, just long range normal( very punishable on whiff). Heck since you coming to SCR, we can run this match for sure.
I'm no Kitana main, so correct me if I'm wrong. She doesn't have a threatening way to get out of Cage's pressure besides D1 to cutter. No character in the game is a winning matchup against Cage without a fantastic way to escape his pressure (unless you're a zoning God). Kitana doesn't have that. Just because she's a pain from afar with fans doesn't automatically mean winning matchup, she needs to have a threatening escape and inside game to be a winning matchup. Kenshi has that stupid safe armor escape with good zoning, therefore bad matchup. Sonya's semi-safe EX Kartwheel with a good inside game and good zoning, therefore bad matchup. Kabal has an ex dash with good inside and zoning, hence a crap matchup. Kitana has good zoning but lackluster threat in escaping Cage's rushdown. Sure she might have a good D1 but I think Cage can B3 that just like he can B3 Mileena's and even Sonya's footsies.
maybe, but she could always d1~assaway or d4~assaway. She could even go for
IAA if she wanted to
Didn't think about that. But can't Cage punish the assaway on lift because of the lack of blockstun on the D1?maybe, but she could always d1~assaway or d4~assaway. She could even go for
it depends if he reacts fast enough with b3 or not, u gotta take the cancel advantage into consideration, and if she gets a d4 on hit an cancels into assaway she gets out for free an theres nothing cage can do to stop it and he has to work his way back in again. D4 on block is 0 btw. About the only thing he could do is catch her comming down on the otherside with an EX shadowkick but that wouldn't really do much besides knock her away again.
ex ass only has frames after shes started travelin and d1 assaway is ridiculous cuz youll get f3d on reaction to a blocked d1, free AA combo even if they react latemaybe, but she could always d1~assaway or d4~assaway. She could even go for
CSZ cage is 5-5, after playing sets with both CURBOLICOUS and GGA Dizzy i am utterly convinced that it is a 5-5. Cages down 4 is vital in this matchup as you cannot parry his advance after it hits. But the parry changes the entire meta game of the fight and forces both characters to constantly stay guessing. It takes cage just as many good reads as it takes CSZ to win this match, csz has high damage without meter as well.
I just haven't had a convenient time, as I know I'll have to have the time to respond to comments as I come back to check TYM and see MIT's has gotten 6 pages of comments already.
Nobody beats Shang in your world
this match is a 6-4 in cages favor at best. I play this matchup quite often at the highest level and i can safely say that its no worse than a 6-4. Kanos footsies along with his knife game make him hard for cage to just run up on him.
how does the breaker trap work again and why is ex nutpunch a bad idea?To address the posts I was tagged in:
Mikemetroid Yes, I believe Cyrax beats Cage. I believe GGA HAN is the best at fighting Cage for sure. You can actually zone in this match with Cyrax and his D4 is an absurd keepout tool. When it hits he gets a mixup between 12/11 and cmd grab which is extremely good. Also, going for counterpoke F3 against Cyrax is a major risk as it loses to cmd grab (you are attempting to block a poke so you are waiting) and d1 ex ragdoll (you are trying to counterpoke the d1 and get lit up). EX nut punch is a death wish and any time you get touched its at least 35-40% if the Cyrax uses the breaker trap.
MITDJT I agree with Liu Kang being 5-5. Considering his tools and having played XBlades both reinforce this opinion.
crosstalk I may make a matchup chart since some people have been asking. I would think everyone has had their full of them already though
When you are netted, they do EX Bomb, medium bomb, uppercut, b2, then finish it however they wish. Everything is unbreakable except the uppercut, which if you break the bomb resets you anways. So, you cannot break til the finisher.
b3 doesnt really pose as much of an issue for liu in this matchup, rarely do i find my liu being whiff punished unless im at a serious disadvantage in life, also i find im capable once getting of blowing people up with kang due to my own mixup game.
Nah lol Shang has plenty of bad MU's (Smoke, Freddy, noob...etc) but I don't think Cage beats him and Scorpion for DAMN sure doesn't stand up to him.Nobody beats Shang in your world
it's tough but it ain't 2-8 >_> kano's 6 frame d1 and d3 are great tools in this match-up (he doesn't have the toughest time poking out) and simply having an x-ray is more than enough to dissuade cage from going in. knives aren't the best keepaway tool but we make em work. kano's just gotta play it safe and not upball willy nilly.
