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jax's F413 frame advantage bug

Dark_Rob

Champion
Man this game, smh. Very nice explanation Riu. Ive been hearing bits and pieces about this from, Maxter and CD jr. According to Maxter, in the corner against big hitbox characters(like subby) this is a block infinite. Tom brady also told me this. This is the kind of shit that makes me want to quit this game.

Can you confirm this? Is it a block infinite in the corner on large characters?
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
...Did you record that with the dummy doing CPU stuff???
 

Somberness

Lights
Man this game, smh. Very nice explanation Riu. Ive been hearing bits and pieces about this from, Maxter and CD jr. According to Maxter, in the corner against big hitbox characters(like subby) this is a block infinite. Tom brady also told me this. This is the kind of shit that makes me want to quit this game.

Can you confirm this? Is it a block infinite in the corner on large characters?
No it's not because it's random.

Great video Riu, glad I was not wrong.
 

bombrider

Mortal
This is probably the dumbest thing I've ever seen in this game next to the input bug...absolutely retarded.
 

xxteefxx

Kenshi Moderator
Face Palm ** :rant2:

i noticed this when i was in salty battle last time..Cdjr kept dominating kenshi with this. i was able to sometimes reverse with EX RK and sometimes not.

returned back home, and tell now! never understood it.... Detroit as well bugged me with this, as well as many other players.

thank you for clarifying this riu48! awsm work. also, how are you doing? hope you are doing fine man. take care of yourself and hope to see you at seasons beating if i might attend...or maybe you can join us the week after at swifttomhanks house ? :) would be happy to have you and that we can play more Sonya vs kenshi matches man.

take care
 

DanCock

Cock Master!!
:( nice video.. i noticed this happening at weird times when i faced a jax last week.. like i didnt know what was happening, but sometimes i was able to escape and sometimes not so i was like uhhh maybe i shouldnt move.

i think this happens with a few other characters..
 

Somberness

Lights
It probably happens with everybody, but certain characters with low crouch block hitboxes can avoid the second hit to escape.
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
Yeah, I just tried it. Okay guys, not in denial anymore lol.

Yeah it happens on everyone likely, but it wouldn't surprise me if Mileena 100% avoids it.
 

bombrider

Mortal
Maybe it'd be more efficient if matches where Jax players are involved are just settled with a coin toss (since in seems like it happens about 50% of time as it was randomly shown in this video).

Heads you win, Tails Jax wins...
 

Evil_Riu48

Kombatant
How does this happen? I don't understand how it could happen.
i think what happens is that sometimes the last hit of f413 will freeze you for a few frames giving jax frame advantage

@dark rob
i would not call it an block infinite in the corner but if you let go block at the wrong time and you get hit when jax has meter your eating more than a 60% combo jax hopely we can see it happening in the corner
 

Prinz

watch?v=a8PEVV6tt14
I don't want to bust on you, good video and all, BUT, did you notice that when you say the frame advantage comes up the character of the CPU first STANDS UP, then JUMPS. Please rewatch the video before busting on me. This happens everytime when Jax has "frame advantage". If this is what you call a "frame advantage", than I'm fine with that. Also, I'd like to say about training mode: it's complete bullshit, I record a combo and everytime I replay it, it is replayed differently, but it's the SAME FUCKING COMBO! I personally do not trust training mode no more, replays at least, so please make videos with real-time gameplay. If players encountered this in rel gameplay than I shut up.
 

Trini_Bwoi

Kombatant
I don't want to bust on you, good video and all, BUT, did you notice that when you say the frame advantage comes up the character of the CPU first STANDS UP, then JUMPS. Please rewatch the video before busting on me. This happens everytime when Jax has "frame advantage". If this is what you call a "frame advantage", than I'm fine with that. Also, I'd like to say about training mode: it's complete bullshit, I record a combo and everytime I replay it, it is replayed differently, but it's the SAME FUCKING COMBO! I personally do not trust training mode no more, replays at least, so please make videos with real-time gameplay. If players encountered this in rel gameplay than I shut up.
They stand up blocking but the block button has been released......
 

Prinz

watch?v=a8PEVV6tt14
They stand up blocking but the block button has been released......
Exactly, they stand up blocking, blocking doesn't allow jumping, opponent jumps later. This, my friend, is the so called "input bug", when you don't time right the input and the next command doesn't come out. But, if the opponent is the CPU indeed, then it must be a hell of a bug if it messes up even with the CPU LoL
 

Trini_Bwoi

Kombatant
Exactly, they stand up blocking, blocking doesn't allow jumping, opponent jumps later. This, my friend, is the so called "input bug", when you don't time right the input and the next command doesn't come out. But, if the opponent is the CPU indeed, then it must be a hell of a bug if it messes up even with the CPU LoL
What we seem to have here is Jax's F4,1,3 randomly locks the opponent into blocking longer than usual. This is not the "input bug".