indeed, the reason jax doesn't 7 3 him like cage is because his pressure is good, but only gets good dmg in the corner. He can barely get a 30 percent punish on ppl, so if scorpion takes a risk, he won't get crushed like he would vs sonya, or cage bcuz cage gets free pressure after a nut punch combo. Also scorpion prevents gp use and zoning from jax. Also any whiffed dash punches= 40 pecent combo/vortex combo.
Umm, I am not saying for sure the MU is 5-5, but beside f41 jax only has one other string that falls under "fast" starter and that's 12 which the quan player will just uppercut anyway because he will be duck blocking anticipating f41. The jax player is gonna have to depend on his strings that start with 2, or b1 which are far from "fast starters", most likely the jax player will depend on jip, or risky spacing just to land them.
i havent seen that matchup in tourney at this point but maybe we will soon, as far as better theory fighting, the main reason he doesnt win 7-3 is the lack of midscreen damage, the risk reward actually has potential to be in scorpions favor while midscreen, and all options in the vortex are lower risk midscreen then lets say in the cyrax mu. This matchup is not as bad as lets say cage, thats practically the definition of a 7-3, dominating footsies, and absolutely obliterating pressure midscreen and if youre in the corner, you may as well put the damn controller down. Jax is not much of a threat to scorpion unless he is 1. in your face with momentum, or 2. Pressuring in the corner with meter, thts an adv, but its no johnny cage matchup, scorpion can very much win the zoning battle and beats out jax for midscreen damage. 6-4, not to mention, like mit said, low damage=less punishing the vortex midscreen
yah man jax vs lao is a 7=3 idc what nobody has to say... kung lao disables anything a jax player has to offer... the only way jax wins at the highest level is if the lao player doesnt know the match up or just damn right gets out played which is un-likely to happen at the highest level...
jax beats scorpion im sorry... that juicy hitbox is what kills scorpion... and soo what about the hell fire's, ill eat those all day untill we get to the corner... and even if we are mid-screen, i can spam f413 and the only shot you have out is ex spear..... which is risky as well but most likely the scorpion player will land an ex spear in betweens jaxs pressure just because.. it just happends because its unexpected... and jax can punish more than 30% and if i punish vortex its not going to be just f413 you can f4 ex waves you can 12 over head ex gp, you can b12 f4 ex waves i mean the mix up games is nasty i stand by 7-3 scorpions only chance is vortex....
malik, you know jaxs pressure is good on high hitbox characters ... corner or not...
um, i'll see you at scr my friend, we can run that match and i'll show you the ways of scorpion
, slips and i agreed that scorpions for sure 7 3s are kabal, sonya, cage, and cyrax. The rest i dnt think so buddy.
i know, but he lacks the damage to get a legit punish on scorpion, i can take more vortex chances on him then someone like sonya. I've ran this match with you and tyrant, never have i just got dominated and just pushed around. When i play a cyrax or sonya, i feel completely disabled and basically risks are useless. Also jax can't stay grounded and if he jumps, I can AA him. gps are useless and dash punches aren't hard to whiff punish for a full combo.
idk man... highest level 6-4 lol and jax shouldnt be jumping on scorion.. godlike anti-
dat juicy ass hitbox haha, it could be 7 3 though. I wouldn't count it out for sure. We can just run this match some and get an idea of what it should be.
i get what you saying though, i have no safe way to poke out of your pressure and jax has an 8 frame low starter, so 7 3 wouldn't be crazy. I can have a huge lead on jax and then "boom" i'm toasted haha.
yah true oh yah btw man sorry i couldnt get yall last weekend didnt have no as and forgot to call back.. but yah idk i just feel if i lose to a scorpion, its gonne be the highest level ever lol but yah idkso just you no other scorpion ever lol
haha it's cool bruh, we can play this weekend since we're out on winter break this after school is done friday. And yeah you prolly right, i dnt think any other scorpion could beat your jax in a set, i think slips would be the only other scorpion to give you that super high lvl scorp competition.
You do realize Scorpion players can say the exact same thing about F413 right? lol. I'm starting to wonder if I've only gone even with Jax players because they don't take the matchup seriously.. either that or the gauntlet of Cage players out there has made it look like a miracle if F413 actually does fully connect on someone else's crouching hitbox.
i might update some things soon, i've been meaning to but i haven't been too enthusiastic about MK9 with all the Injustice hype
vs kabal : cant do anything but armor doesnt do enough damage, if other chars goes 4-6 then this is probably 3-7 (if im not mistakes f413 does whiff periodically)
