Interactables need to be disabled for tournament play

[chores]

They usually just banned characters.

ft5 me bro no eizo no alpha pat no astaroth no island stages no infinite stages

 

[Zoidberg747]

I remember hearing about how they banned that manly spear girl in SCIV but beyond that I don't know how Soul Calibur's rules work.

Other than her it was pretty much just guest characters that were not on all consoles(Like how Kratos was banned in MK9)

 

[Relaxedstate]

Ima keep it a Bean with yall, the reason I stopped competing in this game after ECT last year was largely due to interactables. Dont get me wrong, I am not bashing the game, I think its a good game and a fun game, which is why I still follow it and watch you guys. I just didnt like the idea of grinding and learning matchups and then getting to a tournament and having to hope luck was on my side in deciding the stage I played on.

When you play Cyborg luck is never on your side

 

[Eric The Scruffy]

Not all back dashes are godlike.

Not all backdashes are equal, but I'm pretty sure they all have the same universal amount of invincible frames.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Few things about interactables being on/off:
On: with them on, characters have multiple setups with them/ background bounces which lead to damage, setups, and etc. A thing many dislike is some setups lead to too much damage, but since Injustice isnt a fast game mobility wise, having them on makes up for that.
Off: Would take out the super deadly setups that come from interactables or background bounces and would definitely change the game in a huge way, however, the game would likely be slower paced and having them off would negatively affect multiple characters.
Conclusion: this will be a community decision, but as of right now they are on so just comply with them being on and maybe they will be off for future events, we will just have to see what happens.

 

[AK coolcmcgee]

ft5 me bro no eizo no alpha pat no astaroth no island stages no infinite stages

Ok prepare your anus

 

[xInfra Deadx]

Not all back dashes are godlike.

Not all backdashes are useful

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

it's a little late to start bringing stuff like this up...

I don't think so. We've given it a year to play out. And interactables have just gotten dumber with clear character advantage.

I'd love to see them taken out. Sure, bomb resets are with with CW and all, but I don't want them at the expense of all the other crap in the game. Combos into guaranteed OTGs are just stupid. I like the transitions because they're strategical in avoiding clash, and the background bounces can be used by everyone and its just a combo extender. The interactable objects themselves should go. Too bad we can't eliminate them without the bounces too.

 

[ShotgunInsanity]

I would like to see a tourny without interactables, it would be interesting.

 

[Qwark28]

Joker has nasty setups with background bounces, where if you don't know how to block properly, you could lose your entire health bar.

But of course, this is Joker, so he has to earn that background bounce first

It's not about blocking. You won't block it, there's no blocking part.

 

[Eh SnOwY]

So i've been away from TYM and coming back to this. hahahahaha TYM never fails to amaze me.

 

[Big Pampering]

I don't think so. We've given it a year to play out. And interactables have just gotten dumber with clear character advantage.

I'd love to see them taken out. Sure, bomb resets are with with CW and all, but I don't want them at the expense of all the other crap in the game. Combos into guaranteed OTGs are just stupid. I like the transitions because they're strategical in avoiding clash, and the background bounces can be used by everyone and its just a combo extender. The interactable objects themselves should go. Too bad we can't eliminate them without the bounces too.

We have played this game a whole year with interactables and do all people really prefer interactables being turned off?

 

[iShinnok03]

Before, it was too early to ban them, now it's too late? Lol, come on.

 

[Espio]

I've played several long sets with them turned off and I honestly really enjoyed the experience and would not be opposed to this if change did happen.


I play mostly power characters that benefit heavily from interactables, but I wouldn't have a problem with the change and think it would be a really cool experiment. If people are worried about trying it at majors, the various scenes could try it at their locals and have people weigh in with their thoughts too plus you can try it online too.

 

[Art]

There isn't much else to say.

Characters (Martian Man Hunter) should only be getting 20% when they hit you but because of unscaled interactable damage they get 40% whenever they touch you.

This game would become much more fairer and less reliant on gimmicks such as

"Let me sit in the corner and use turbine/rockets/air robots" and easily zone you out with unblockables"

This game can be hype without the need for gimmicks. Interactables make chars who are already good a bit too good. Imagine if Zod didn't have unblockable interactables to toss at you while you are sitting there like a duck blocking swipes from his trait? Like come on son. The dumpster in the corner with Batman is about the silliest thing I have ever used or seen in a fighting game as well.

Martian getting OTG's after an interactable like come on.

Lets all make the right decision as a community this time and have them disabled at future tournaments.

I think this was covered a WHILE ago Carl. Interactables are part of the game design. Although I DO agree they should be able to be blocked, but that would have to be a patch of some kind.
Also, remember that you CAN armor or in some cases back-dash through interactables.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

Simple.

They're part of the game.
They aren't "ST Akuma" game breaking.

Some characters on some stages versus certain characters makes your statement incorrect.

Zod vs NW on ferris or Wayne dinning hall for example are worse than 7-3

 

[F4tal]

It is far too late to disable interactables. We have been playing this game with them on and barely anybody has complained about them until Jupiter started winning more and do doing well with MMH. When Jupiter beat King but still didn't make it out of pools at NEC nobody was complaining about MMH. Kinda retarded to ban them because one player doing well, and let's be serious, that is why PL made this thread because he has been complaining about MMH non stop lately.

 

[Pnut]

So u mean to tell me if I play a good set in tournament against a supes and we are on a stage like themiscira and I have like 80% to my opponents 20 but unfortunately get opened up in the corner for big damage into ice breath jump over standing 3 into interactable tree and end up losing my full 80, it would make me look bad that part of the reason I loser was to free ass unblock able damage, when I was clearly out playing my opponent? Lol

SCAR WHY YOU GETTING HIT BY JUMP OVER CROSS 3. THAT SHIT AIN'T AMBIGUOUS.

 

[VGMtheVagabond]

It's not about blocking. You won't block it, there's no blocking part.

Yeah there is. I've seen it being done.

 

[Crimson Panther]

This was brought up almost instantly after the game released, but was shot down. Especially from those whose characters really benefited from it like zoners.

If only we agreed on it back then.

 

[HoneyBee]

Since everyone wants to see how this would work in a tournament, here are the matches from the no interactable tournament I was in back in December. I can't go over the content right now so it might include the normal tournament as well, I don't remember lol. There's 3 links because the stream went down a few times.

http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers/b/487708296
http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers/b/487724908
http://www.twitch.tv/torontotoptiers/b/487738425

 

[yaoding09]

I think some people just try and make this game MK. I think interactables are a big part of what gives injustice its own identity. Whats next ban stage transitions? If you play this game as injustice and not MK it will be a better experience. And I am a die hard MK fan and always have been since MK1. But I like what NRS has branched into.

 

[Qwark28]

Yeah there is. I've seen it being done.

Then you've seen it done wrong. As someone who regularly does the setup I can tell you it's not blockable if done correctly.

 

[ReD WolF]

It seems like most people in this thread would prefer them off...It should definitely be tried

 

[Reaper040]

Problem is that turning off interactables also disables the background bounce, which is a pretty big mechanic for some characters. No way to disable one without the other. Interactables will have to stay on.

Im pretty sure there's two different options for intractable and transitions.