Posted at 9:43pmCan anyone show me another video of this being done an opponent who just holds down? I've tried it like 100 times and I haven't gotten it to work once. My timing isn't THAT bad I think.
Posted at 9:43pmLike set the AI to always crouch, do like F3 > 2 xx MB Grab into the reset or something.
Posted at 9:44pmYay triple post, I finally got it to work, holy crap is that hard.
You're completely right. Cyrax is fine, matter of fact he needs buffs.remember how many majors cyrax took in comparison to kung lao and kabal ...?
How you do this? I can pull it off at allSo I just found something absolutely groundbreaking with Frost.
(Sorry about the shaky cam, but as you can tell by the video, backdashing, jumping and ducking does not escape. Obviously nothing else will either.)
YOU CAN GUARANTEE A MB.FREEZE RESET OFF OF A MB.FREEZE.
We thought it wasn't possible, there was always a catch... backdashing... delayed wake-ups.... try as we might, there always seemed to be a way out... but I knew in my heart of hearts that it was possible, it must be... this game is just too damn silly for it not to be.
HOW TO DO IT? !!!
mb.freeze, tap trait, mb.freeze
This is VERY difficult to execute. I hit it maybe 20 percent of the time in the last hour (I literally just discovered this). I'm not entirely certain about the timing: is it frame perfect and only possible if you tap trait instantly after mb.freeze recovers, and input mb.freeze instantly after trait recovers? I'm not certain, but I think it is, meaning you need 2 consecutive frame perfect timings in a row...
WHY THIS WORKS? !!!
This I think I can shed some light on. For anyone who's tried to perform a trait combo off of mb.freeze and wondered why it doesn't work, it seems like activating trait turns off mb.freeze's comboability, while retaining their immobility. For example, if you mb.freeze, after it's recovery you can dash forward with enough time to combo, but if you mb.freeze and immediately tap trait, for some reason you don't have enough time to combo. I'm assuming this was a safeguard against easy trait combos. I think this safeguard backfired and allows us to connect a mb.freeze that's completely inescapable...
It's time Frost brothers, the second winter is upon us. @Laos_boy 's budding technology has found it's final form, our enemies will tremble in fear, their health bars shall deplete in our ice storm. The vortex is no longer escapeable.
Every single combo now, with 2 meters, has an inescapable 38% ender...
100% trait combos are now possible...
Does Frost now rightfully hold the title of highest damaging character in Injustice?
Does this change match-up numbers? Does this change tier placement?
and the amazing @RunwayMafia who I am a fool to have forgotten
and any other Frost player I forgot!!
Proof of concept video
It's a just frame. I can do it, but timing is super strict ._.How you do this? I can pull it off at all
That's what I meant when I said you guys don't have meter often. I'm pretty sure most of the time your gonna spend it on kf's vortex and not this. Unless you can do the vortex from this..Yeah you never ever see anyone doing MB iceberg into a combo ending in MB grab for a punish which costs 2 bars. Yeah, we never have meter.
Cool cuz when I did it the grabbed whiffIt's a just frame. I can do it, but timing is super strict ._.
dbf2(MB), trait(this is the frame perfect bit), dbf2(MB)
You can input he second grab at the end of trait and it'll come out on the first available frame so that's not so strict.
If you can get the regrab reliably, we will always go for this and not vortex.That's what I meant when I said you guys don't have meter often. I'm pretty sure most of the time your gonna spend it on kf's vortex and not this. Unless you can do the vortex from this..
OK TIME TO ORDER
1: JESUS FUCKING CHRIST CAN WE NOT HAVE 18 DIFFERENT PEOPLE QUOTE ME e_e
2: The tech I havent posted isnt a "OH I WANT PROPS " or "GIVE ME CREDIT" type of thing. Its literally stuff I have shown people. I dont care about credit or to be recognized. Ive already proven that. I really care about nero gettting props for tech I already knew. In fact I was told to speak out against it, when I honestly didnt care which is at the point I am at. I respect this guy for hitting the lab and finding the tech. Good stuff.
3: Even as we speak people know I tell them about tech that hasnt been posted. Sure it may be downplayed but its a matter of "do you like it or not" and when people don't, I tend to get blown up which is very frustrating. The joker forum was more of a downplaying troll post anyway. Its not that causing the problem, its just in general.
4: The people I have tech with are as follows: Cyborg, Raven, Green Arrow, Batgirl (of course) , Nightwing, Black Adam, Doomsday, Catwoman, Killer Frost (or this here is fine as well), MMH, WW, Scorpion, Harley, Bane, Superman (I have told DMS an alternate version of his vortex), Flash (A revisted and revised tech that I brought to Zyphox's attention). I have Shazam option selects against other characters that lead into an infinite as well.
5. I don't hide tech, even with BG. I show people all the tech I find and revision. I am still working hard on getting the entire cast under way. For now I have these character.
6. My decision to post these are truly undecided although I gave DMS the clear to post whatever tech I feel like showing him (WHICH BTW you did the wrong thing with the BG vortex. Ill show you later.)
That is all. /inb4 50 alerts
We have found a ton of new combos with trait recently actually. Check the video tech vault.
no he doesn't need buffs .. he was fine compared to a kunglao or kabal ... you nerf him and we have this kabal and lao dominated tourney scene .. oh waitYou're completely right. Cyrax is fine, matter of fact he needs buffs.
Because majors are a valid measurement of how good a character is.
Kano placing in top 8 early 2013 says hello.
Please refer to my sig gif.