Breakthrough Inescapable Flash Freeze reset

[Sultan]

This is probably one of the hardest thing execution wise that I've ever tried doing in a fighting game. I'm okay with it being legal because I don't think anyone will be able to do it consistently.

Execution wise this is no more difficult than charge partitioning, Makoto's kara double fukiage, Akuma's kara demon, or Uriens TTH in 3S... or roll-cancelling 360 throws in CvS2... or Mags infinite in MvC2. Right now, and for the next month or two, sure... but give it 5-6 months.

In one day, I'm no bullshit 50% consistent with this. It took me 4 months to master Urien's TTH.

It sounded like you meant Cyrax. You literally said :

I don't cry about it, I play Martian. I just don't want the game look stupid!!!Flash has 60% that is true, but As the author of this thread stated KF has 62% trait combos without resets and that she can get up to 100% with 3 bars and full trait using this reset. That is EXACTLY like fucking Cyrax!!! And on top of that she is a vortex character already!!!! People like you were saying that Cyrax is not tournament viable without his shit and it shouldn't be patched!!!!!and now the same people are saying MK 9 is trash because it has shit like Cyrax's resets. I don't see how this should stay if Sinestro's pushblock stuff got hotfixed.

IA Zod/Cyborg balls, Bane venom and MMH exist (imagine how this stuff looks to an outsider). We're long past this game looking fair.

Yeah, in theory we could kill with this - lots of resources and godly execution are necessary. Clash complicates this heavily since by the time I've spent my second meter you'd have built a great deal of meter also... None of which is downplaying how good this is. Rarely, like maybe once every 50 matches, a Frost player might perform a 100% combo. I think we'll see 70% regularly, however.

And as for a hotfix. Depending on how they incorporate it, it could have unintended consequences that hurt multiple characters... imagine if their fix was to remove the immobility glitch from freeze states. Poor Arrow.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

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With what string?

Just frame Play Doctor on wakeup while they're holding down. Didn't think it deserved its own thread because she can't get much off of it, but it's good to know. Again, credits to Sonic Fox.

 

[Laos_boy]

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Just frame Play Doctor on wakeup while they're holding down. Didn't think it deserved its own thread because she can't get much off of it, but it's good to know. Again, credits to Sonic Fox.

Oh I knew about that I mentioned it in a stream chat somewhere

 

[Braindead]

@Ne'er-do-well if your trait was almost fully charge and that tap after the first MB freeze filled it, does the timing of the next Freeze change? Also can you do a full trait combo after that?

 

[Sultan]

@Ne'er-do-well if your trait was almost fully charge and that tap after the first MB freeze filled it, does the timing of the next Freeze change? Also can you do a full trait combo after that?

That doesn't work. If the trait activates there is too much recovery. With that said, if you have trait charged that much, than you can just combo into trait during the first combo, end it in mb.freeze, and then go for the reset.

Any of these combos you could swap out the j2,2 ender for the trait+mb.freeze reset:

the damage would be approximately 90% (50-55% + 38%) for 3 meters (2 mb.freezes and 1 mb.iceberg) and trait.

 

[Catnip_Her0]

wYeah I knew about this tech for awhile now. I Even showed Khaotik and DMS. But I tend to get downplayed /ridiculed/blown up for posting tech not pertaining to my character. I have unforeseen broken tech with more then half the cast but Id rather not post it due to this. so blah.

GRUNDY WANT HIDDEN TECH BRAAHH !!!!

 

[shaowebb]

wYeah I knew about this tech for awhile now. I Even showed Khaotik and DMS. But I tend to get downplayed /ridiculed/blown up for posting tech not pertaining to my character. I have unforeseen broken tech with more then half the cast but Id rather not post it due to this. so blah.

Post all your unforeseen broken tech for all characters and I'll do you some art.

 

[Shaazzyam]

Invisible Grayson maybe?

Nope. Buuut, it does have to do with Flying Graysonm so your close

 

[HeroesNZ]

Nope. Buuut, it does have to do with Flying Graysonm so your close

Oh, you know the tech? Is it a Flying Grayson vortex? Or something like you Flying Grayson while they're knocked down and they have to guess which side to wakeup on

 

[Shaazzyam]

Oh, you know the tech? Is it a Flying Grayson vortex? Or something like you Flying Grayson while they're knocked down and they have to guess which side to wakeup on

I only know what the tech is. Fox forget to tell me how to actually do it

But if you still wanna know just pm me

 

[haketh]

This is probably one of the hardest thing execution wise that I've ever tried doing in a fighting game. I'm okay with it being legal because I don't think anyone will be able to do it consistently.

YOu know what happens when people suually sy that lol

 

[Cossner]

This is probably one of the hardest thing execution wise that I've ever tried doing in a fighting game. I'm okay with it being legal because I don't think anyone will be able to do it consistently.

Remember all those crazy, impossible to land Cyrax combos Tony-T actually performed during tournament matches.

 

[DevilMaySpy]

This is probably one of the hardest thing execution wise that I've ever tried doing in a fighting game. I'm okay with it being legal because I don't think anyone will be able to do it consistently.

Hey guys, remember Nomad Dash Cancels

 

[Vagrant]

Remember all those crazy, impossible to land Cyrax combos Tony-T actually performed during torunament matches.

Hey guys, remember Nomad Dash Cancels

Yeah new TYM rule guys.

No more saying something is unviable because of the execution requirements until at least 3 months after it's discovery.

 

[Fred Marvel]

this is really hard to do (for me at least since ive never used frost save for a random select or 2) but to think people wont have this mastered in a few months would be silly, shits broke. still not as bad as mmh tho

 

[Pan1cMode]

Ok, so I'm at about 20% consistency now. Give me till EVO and I may be using this in match. Just gotta sharpen my execution a bit more.

 

[Captain Oxygen]

All that matter is that astronaut will never land this on me ever.

 

[Pan1cMode]

Never say never

 

[Wetdoba]

4: BANE
And: I have Shazam option selects against other characters that lead into an infinite as well.

 

[oP Twist]

Oh, you know the tech? Is it a Flying Grayson vortex? Or something like you Flying Grayson while they're knocked down and they have to guess which side to wakeup on

Couldn't you just crouch that?

 

[HeroesNZ]

Couldn't you just crouch that?

No like you finish your combo, then Flying Grayson and it's really ambiguous as to which side you're on

 

[oP Twist]

No like you finish your combo, then Flying Grayson and it's really ambiguous as to which side you're on

I've done crossup flying Grayson's after certain strings like 1f2 or 1d3 if u time it u can crossup if u don't it won't crossup.

 

[HeroesNZ]

I've done crossup flying Grayson's after certain strings like 1f2 or 1d3 if u time it u can crossup if u don't it won't crossup.

I know, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean you finish your combo, and then Flying Grayson whilst they're still on the ground, so that they have to guess which side they wake up on. The setup you're talking about is the OTG

 

[oP Twist]

I know, but that's not what I'm talking about. I mean you finish your combo, and then Flying Grayson whilst they're still on the ground, so that they have to guess which side they wake up on. The setup you're talking about is the OTG

Hmm, I have no idea than, that would be a pretty sick setup tho.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

an example of what's possible with this

Lol