In an unsafe world, where is the safety?

[BoromiRofGeo]

Ermac is pretty safe.

 

[TackyHaddock]

Ermac is pretty safe.

you forgot this?

 

[MadeFromMetal]

I think that's his only unsafe move, lol. I can't think of ANYTHING else that he has (that people have used, obviously) that he's unsafe on.

His f3 is -22 and has a punishable gap when cancelled into anything other than (possibly) a frame perfect rocket cancel into block.

 

[Eldriken]

His f3 is -22 and has a punishable gap when cancelled into anything other than (possibly) a frame perfect rocket cancel into block.

Ah, alright. Well, most of the time, when a Jax player uses that on me, I get hit with it, so...>_>

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

theres much better stuff to be armoring through than 113 nutpunch with sd/a-list, I'd rather save my meter and just punish regularly

of course, thats why nobody does it

 

[MadeFromMetal]

Ah, alright. Well, most of the time, when a Jax player uses that on me, I get hit with it, so...>_>

I play Jax's that use it like Johnny's f3 as space control and a way to get in. Once I take that option away, they usually start to run in or use f21.

 

[Schuyler]

Like any other charcter you have to spend meter to be safe with her mixups. And all her viable plus strings have obvious gaps.

 

[Scott The Scot]

A-list Johnny is super safe yeah.

Nobody armors through 113xxnutpunch though

theres much better stuff to be armoring through than 113 nutpunch with sd/a-list, I'd rather save my meter and just punish regularly

Characters can literally do a low poke to stuff the nut punch.

And I shit you not, Liu Kang can walk out of it.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Characters can literally do a low poke to stuff the nut punch.

And I shit you not, Liu Kang can walk out of it.

liu kang's walk is so boss

 

[Scott The Scot]

liu kang's walk is so boss

Looks awesome and I think it's like the second fastest in the game behind Kitana.

 

[Undergroundepict]

I think that's his only unsafe move, lol. I can't think of ANYTHING else that he has (that people have used, obviously) that he's unsafe on.

Pretty much all of his moves are incredibly unsafe on whiff. Once you get used to neutral ducking him, he becomes incredibly unsafe.

 

[The Highlander]

Got in a debate in a twitch chat the other night regarding who the safest character in the game is, taking into account all normals, specials, strings, etc. My question was who in this game is safer than Cassie? Someone replied "lots of other characters are safer than Cassie", which made zero sense to me. Then someone mentioned Kobu, which was the only one that I thought could arguably be higher on the list than Cassie, and even that is debatable.

Please advise where a lost soul can find safety, in this incredibly unsafe and frightening world.

How is Cassie the safest you've heard of?

Pretty much all of his moves are incredibly unsafe on whiff. Once you get used to neutral ducking him, he becomes incredibly unsafe.

Most characters have that though, on block Jax is incredibly safe.

 

[JerzeyReign]

Cassie Cage is by far the safest to me. Even if she does something "unsafe" she can cancel into a flip which is pretty safe. And she can cancel into it at almost any part of any string.

 

[SaltShaker]

#BuffPlusFrames

 

[Tony at Home]

Pretty much all of his moves are incredibly unsafe on whiff.

Everything is unsafe on whiff.

 

[WiseM0nkey]

Characters can literally do a low poke to stuff the nut punch.

And I shit you not, Liu Kang can walk out of it.

LMAO

 

[I GOT HANDS]

CO Sonya, Mileena and Ermac must be the most punishable characters in the game.

Sonya is one of the safer characters in the game except for Divekick I think right

 

[errormacro7]

Sonya is one of the safer characters in the game except for Divekick I think right

No. All of her universal specials are unsafe, her options off Military stance are unsafe as well. Everything she has in Covert Ops is unsafe tbh.

 

[Metzos]

I am surprised no one mentioned Goro, especially DF.

 

[haketh]

Goro is pretty goddamn safe, I can't think of much I would o for in a match that isn't safe or can't be made safe with a cancel to punchwalk.

 

[BoromiRofGeo]

Characters can literally do a low poke to stuff the nut punch.

And I shit you not, Liu Kang can walk out of it.

what an f?

 

[I GOT HANDS]

The fact that you have to guess twice correctly against her 50/50 and only have to guess wrong once immediately makes it miles safer than a lot of other characters 50/50s. She can also cancel out of MS if the first 50/50 doesnt make it through, and bait armour/be entirely safe. I really don't think she belongs in the same discussion as Mileena or MoS Ermac at all, she really safe in the hands of a good player.

 

[errormacro7]

The fact that you have to guess twice correctly against her 50/50 and only have to guess wrong once immediately makes it miles safer than a lot of other characters 50/50s. She can also cancel out of MS if the first 50/50 doesnt make it through, and bait armour/be entirely safe. I really don't think she belongs in the same discussion as Mileena or MoS Ermac at all, she really safe in the hands of a good player.

I mean on block. Arc kick, dive kick, leg grab and all of her options off MS are unsafe. I'm not saying she should be safer, it's just that if you block anything CO Sonya does, you can punish.

 

[Undergroundepict]

Everything is unsafe on whiff.

Yes, but everything Jax throws out there is a high, except for his OH Dash Punch. It makes the read fairly easy, as most other characters have some kind of mid special that cannot be neutral ducked.

 

[I GOT HANDS]

I mean on block. Arc kick, dive kick, leg grab and all of her options off MS are unsafe. I'm not saying she should be safer, it's just that if you block anything CO Sonya does, you can punish.

Sure, if you decide to go for double or nothing... she still has a completely safe 50/50 which also doubles as the best armor baiting move in the game when used like this... the fact that she has a completely unpunishable 50/50 means she can never be considered one of the most unsafe characters in the game, right next to MoS Ermac and Mileena.