Guide "I Love My Job" -- Deathstroke General Discussion Thread

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Question about the Ninja Vortex: I've had some DS players try that against me recently and I just easily backdash out of it. Is the mix-up really in the vortex itself or will it be necessary to bait out the dashes and wake-ups as well? 'cause at that point it really isn't a vortex anymore.

 

[DaiHuu]

Question about the Ninja Vortex: I've had some DS players try that against me recently and I just easily backdash out of it. Is the mix-up really in the vortex itself or will it be necessary to bait out the dashes and wake-ups as well? 'cause at that point it really isn't a vortex anymore.

I don't know, I caught Supes back dashing with the vortex plenty of times when I was playing a fellow STB clanmate, might be just timing...No idea -shrugs-.

karaokelove,

You can also do b1u2, you're still in range to catch them with the low

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

I don't know, I caught Supes back dashing with the vortex plenty of times when I was playing a fellow STB clanmate, might be just timing...No idea -shrugs-.

Because it really isn't hard to see DS dashing in and jumping from a mile away. Press dem double Forward and boom, whiff punish.

 

[DaiHuu]

Because it really isn't hard to see DS dashing in and jumping from a mile away. Press dem double Forward and boom, whiff punish.

From a hard knock down? If it's timed correctly it feels like you can't dash out of it.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

From a hard knock down? If it's timed correctly it feels like you can't dash out of it.

You can wake-up and dash out of hard knockdowns. But not tech roll.

 

[DaiHuu]

You can wake-up and dash out of hard knockdowns. But not tech roll.

I know that, but you c an still catch the backdash if you time it correctly.

 

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I know that, but you c an still catch the backdash if you time it correctly.

So about the vortex? Gimmick or viable?

 

[RYX]

So about the vortex? Gimmick or viable?

It's viable. Not as good as other characters have it but still good.

 

[ryublaze]

Yo I'm pretty sure this is known but if you're doing 323 in the corner and accidently switch sides you can d1 sword flip to continue the combo.

 

[RYX]

Yo I'm pretty sure this is known but if you're doing 323 in the corner and accidently switch sides you can d1 sword flip to continue the combo.

I didn't know this lol

You're fab

 

[Mikman360]

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Have any of you been using 123 as an ender? It's a hard knockdown and lets you 50/50 at all ranges. Weakens your combos but has more opportunity than sword flip.

Something like b1u2 j.1 123 as a basic combo.

Also j.1 has a phantom hitbox lol




What can you do after a blocked f.23? +9 is worthless with all that push and 3 is kind of slow. :v

Yups, that's the basis of the Ninja vortex. 123 and Ji1. it's beautiful, Ji1 provides a higher damage combo than J3, at the cost of some range.

F23 I prefer 32. On block, 32 is safe. You can just end there, or go into sword spin for more damage.
If they get hit, you can do 323, 12 xx Machine gun for 29%
32 will stuff even the fastest of reversals, but the perfect timing can be tricky.
B1 can miss if the opponent moves back and they're too far away. B2 is great though.

Question about the Ninja Vortex: I've had some DS players try that against me recently and I just easily backdash out of it. Is the mix-up really in the vortex itself or will it be necessary to bait out the dashes and wake-ups as well? 'cause at that point it really isn't a vortex anymore.

From what I know, only certain characters back dashes work. I have to do more testing. Even then, it's a guessing game considering only BACK dashes have invincibility. They have to guess which side you'll go to, otherwise they'll accidentally forward dash into your Ji1.

 

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Yups, that's the basis of the Ninja vortex. 123 and Ji1. it's beautiful, Ji1 provides a higher damage combo than J3, at the cost of some range.

F23 I prefer 32. On block, 32 is safe. You can just end there, or go into sword spin for more damage.
If they get hit, you can do 323, 12 xx Machine gun for 29%
32 will stuff even the fastest of reversals, but the perfect timing can be tricky.
B1 can miss if the opponent moves back and they're too far away. B2 is great though.




From what I know, only certain characters back dashes work. I have to do more testing. Even then, it's a guessing game considering only BACK dashes have invincibility. They have to guess which side you'll go to, otherwise they'll accidentally forward dash into your Ji1.

Also, what about Black Adam's Wake-up Lightning cage, Frost's Wake-up slide and Supes' Wake-up Super?

 

[Mikman360]

Also, what about Black Adam's Wake-up Lightning cage, Frost's Wake-up slide and Supes' Wake-up Super?

Adam's cage probably beats it, but that thing beats every wakeup shenanigan in the game.
Frosts slide will miss, if you can anticipate it like I do in the video, you can jump back and Ji1 punish it for a 35% combo
Superman's Super will most likely miss. It's too fast.

 

[DuskAlloy]

So joy of all joys I finally got hatemail today lol

 

[Mikman360]

So joy of all joys I finally got hatemail today lol

Did you reply "AND with a nerfed character!"?

 

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Adam's cage probably beats it, but that thing beats every wakeup shenanigan in the game.
Frosts slide will miss, if you can anticipate it like I do in the video, you can jump back and Ji1 punish it for a 35% combo
Superman's Super will most likely miss. It's too fast.

I think it'd be helpful if we were to make a list on characters/moves that could escape the Vortex much like DaiHuu 's LowGS safety list.

We should also do a list of characters/moves that could get out of his LowGS trap after a mid-screen Sword Flip.

^ nvm that one. I don't even think it's worth doing LowGS anymore since it's only 1% as opposed to 2.

 

[DuskAlloy]

Did you reply "AND with a nerfed character!"?

No he wasnt good enough for that, im saving that for a special occasion, but what happened was that he kept on saying that I sucked so I replied that he lost so what does that make him and we kept going back in forth for like 20 minutes lol

 

[DuskAlloy]

I think it'd be helpful if we were to make a list on characters/moves that could escape the Vortex much like @Daihuu's LowGS safety list.

We should also do a list of characters/moves that could get out of his LowGS trap after a mid-screen Sword Flip.

^ nvm that one. I don't even think it's worth doing LowGS anymore since it's only 1% as opposed to 2.

So does that mean that we get... more charts

 

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So does that mean that we get... more charts

Yus

 

[DuskAlloy]

Yus

My day is complete

 

[Mikman360]

No he wasnt good enough for that, im saving that for a special occasion, but what happened was that he kept on saying that I sucked so I replied that he lost so what does that make him and we kept going back in forth for like 20 minutes lol

I love extended rage conversations

 

[DuskAlloy]

I love extended rage conversations

Rage mail is probably the best reason to pick up slade imo, other then liking him in the comics i guess lol

 

[Mikman360]

Rage mail is probably the best reason to pick up slade imo, other then liking him in the comics i guess lol

As Aris said: "The fun in this character is making your opponent throw a tantrum in front of people in broad daylight."

 

[DuskAlloy]

As Aris said: "The fun in this character is making your opponent throw a tantrum in front of people in broad daylight."

And he was right, the hate is delicious and slightly nutritious... sort of

 

[Mikman360]

And he was right, the hate is delicious and slightly nutritious... sort of

When is Aris ever not right?