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This is exactly what I don't understand. Are people rating it so fairly even playing the same game as everyone else? Like, how the Hell...? lol
This is exactly what I don't understand. Are people rating it so fairly even playing the same game as everyone else? Like, how the Hell...? lol
While the meta of the game remains the same, the game itself, meaning its gameplay elements and characters, has changed significantly in the last 11 months. Fatal blows, certain krushing blows, flawless blocking, blocking mechanics, and jumping kicks function differently than they used to. Top tier characters like Cetrion, Geras, and Jacqui have become a lot weaker while low tier characters like Frost, Kollector, and Kotal Kahn have become lot better. So claiming that NRS barely change anything is inaccurate and dishonest.
As I stated the other day in the character's sub-forum, the vast majority of Kitana's buffs involve fixes and functionality to special moves. To name a couple of examples, razors (in Highborn) finally connect on block and on hit now and fan lift (in Fan-Fare) cannot be broken away, which is a property that characters with similar "frozen while airborne" special moves like Cetrion and Geras have enjoyed since day one. Kitana's most significant change was to EX fan, but even this buff brings the move in line with other traditional EX horizontal projectiles. If she were "getting buffed to no effing end", you would think that a competent tournament player would pick up the character and start winning. Instead, Semiij could not even win a round with Fan-Fare at Final Kombat.
Most of your criticism ought to be specifically directed toward the variation system, which, in my humble opinion, inherently sets up the game for failure no matter how hard NRS developers try. The reality is that certain variations will always be a lot better than others and only a handful of characters with universally strong tools will have three viable variations (i.e., Jacqui). I shared my opinion on the variation system here a while ago.
I may be wrong, but I assume that balancing 90 variations requires a lot more work, time, and effort than reducing AI difficulty level in Towers or adding a couple of new brutalities. When they were initially included, most third variations were useless, but then Upgraded, Outtake, and Eternal caught tournament players' attention and... well, you know the rest of the story.
Didnt realize jump-ins, fatal blow armor, throw KBs, Geras/Cetrion/Liu/Johnny/Jacqui/Sonya/Cassie being notably powerful, and Kollector/Kano/Kitana/Kotal/Frost/D'Vorah being notably weak are things nobody cares about. Good to know.
He obviously didn't mean those, Arq. You can't seriously tell me you read what he said and didn't gather that he was talking about Towers and the like? Dave responded to it and he clearly got it. So...is this intentional ignorance?
I understand that balancing X amount of variations are hard. But why release a third variation for the entire cast when you're obviously struggling to balance the two characters already have? They're adding more workload when it seems like they're already overburdened as it is.
It may be because their priority is increasing the amount of overall content in the game for the large casual audience. This meant adding additional variations, rather than balancing the existing two variations (which may be what the competitive community would have preferred, but we are a small group, relatively speaking, and probably not NRS's first priority)
Still also is an inadequate argument because while many people do predominantly play for the PvP aspect, there's still plenty of people who genuinely enjoy this game for its single player gameplay via Towers. Also, who's to say that working on Towers takes away from development time of balance changes? I HIGHLY doubt the people working on adding new brutalities / skins / holiday towers and the like are the same people scanning tournament footage / reddit / forums to see who and what needs balance changes.
Fair enough. Can't argue those points.
Could be.
Why did Capcom release Street Fighter V without a story mode as well as (if I recall correctly) an arcade mode? LOL. Probably to satisfy due dates set by executives. Fighting games on release turn out incomplete, glitched, and unbalanced arguably for this reason.
To be fair, there's a lot to be frustrated about when it comes to how NRS has chosen (and, more worryingly, NOT chosen) to balance the game. For example, Shao Kahn as a whole and a ridiculous amount of variations being left to rot is really awful. However, those not being touched up adequately doesnt detract from the fact that characters like Kotal, Kitana, and D'Vorah were absolute garbage on release but have since been brought up to mid/high tiers. Geras and Cetrion have been powerhouses since day 0 and have received nothing but nerfs accordingly. Still powerful, but at least brought more in line. Cassie's release state was beyond stupid as well.Fair enough. Can't argue those points.
Could be.
So, yeah. Points taken and I guess I'm just venting frustrations in a not-so-constructive manner. Thanks, y'all.
As I recall, they added the third Variations around the time that people were hardcore complaining about custom Variations not being allowed in Tournaments, and how the existing Variations were all simplified and boring. I believe this was a means of addressing that situation by adding "more" for "variety."
Yeah, being patient is the way to go. I suppose it's safe to say I'm not used to having to be this patient with them.
I mean, there were literally threads here in MKX and Injustice 2 asking NRS not to touch the next game they release for a year. A year. Think about that.
Well, if they'd communicate with us better, the wait wouldn't seem so unbearable.
Yup. As I've said before, I would never want to be a game developer. No matter what you do, you get hated on.
I can get behind that -- but the way I see it, the Reveal event was the beginning of an unprecedented level of transparency from the devs. I mean, they even told us about gameplay features that they weren't sure would make the final game yet. That's something pretty new for NRS.
that's what some people were hoping because they took that away from cassie and just turned around and gave it to johnny. i don't see what's wrong with being able to see that your opponent is about to use an ex special so you now have the knowledge to flawless block
Because there is no reason to amplify it when you can flawless block it, there is no mix, you can punish both options easily. The way johnnys rising star was adjusted is better imo because it doesn‘t take his best tool away while loosing the ability to break away.
well it would have to be punishable by flawless block u2/u3. you have to come off your resources to punish their resources
There is only one play tested character in this game, and its kitana.
They always catchup sadly too little too late though
