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Hidden Nerfs to Harley

haketh

haketh

Champion
deg222 said:
I'm sorry, but I hate when not all changes are listed in the patch notes and I find out my character is nerfed in the middle of a match.
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oh shit, never mind then complaining warranted. Hidden changes after a patch are the dumbest things, lay all that shit out.
 
cpmd4

cpmd4

Slaughter is the Best Medicine
Hey deg222, what do you think of the b22 changes? Do you feel the horizontal range has been lowered at all, or has it just improved? I really think it has been reduced, noticed a difference instantly.
 
Awkward Sloth

Awkward Sloth

Lamest Harley, still better sloth than Jer
cpmd4 said:
It's still good unclashable damage to finish a round, and it can still be followed up if clash has been used already. If it hasn't why not trait after Super instead? It's a hard knockdown so 33% chance for a bomb reset is pretty nice, as long as they can't wake-up through it.
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I was looking forward to our super being meaningful by having that unclashable damage. Making your oppenents have to think about getting in on you when you have full super cause its Harley. I was excited to see the "improved hitbox" of B 2,2 (which seems like a lie) for that damage. But things are looking pretty disappointing. :c
 
cpmd4

cpmd4

Slaughter is the Best Medicine
Awkward Sloth said:
I was looking forward to our super being meaningful by having that unclashable damage. Making your oppenents have to think about getting in on you when you have full super cause its Harley. I was excited to see the "improved hitbox" of B 2,2 (which seems like a lie) for that damage. But things are looking pretty disappointing. :c
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I am disappointed as well. But it's not the end of the world, Harley's still fun for me.
 
Jermball

Jermball

Noob
although this is a nerf.

We still have B3 unclashable, mb cupcakes unclashable, and B2 into super unclashable...but B22 unclashable was nice i admit for endgame.

although is it me? or does harleys play doctor seem easier to hit?
 
deg222

deg222

Best Zatanna that uses Aquaman
Jermball said:
although this is a nerf.

We still have B3 unclashable, mb cupcakes unclashable, and B2 into super unclashable...but B22 unclashable was nice i admit for endgame.

although is it me? or does harleys play doctor seem easier to hit?
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That's nice, but b22 xx super was amazing, it was hit confirmable while b2 xx super isn't.

And no, I don't see a difference with play doctor.
 
Sgtsnake

Sgtsnake

Noob
They didn't have to take away all her useful unclashables. Well I guess u just gotta ride the Harley harder :/
 
Killphil

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
Jermball said:
although this is a nerf.

We still have B3 unclashable, mb cupcakes unclashable, and B2 into super unclashable...but B22 unclashable was nice i admit for endgame.

although is it me? or does harleys play doctor seem easier to hit?
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I just played the patched version for the first time last night and my friend clashed my b3 several times in our set. PD seemed easier to me after babs came out, but that was just from practicing it to the point where I could do it in combos. Maybe it seems easier because you're getting the muscle memory for it now.
 
deg222

deg222

Best Zatanna that uses Aquaman
AK SaltFace said:
Just found a bug on her Super Combo ender with a Jump normal canceled into the Air Gunshot. https://www.youtube.com/embed/frykDXzRC3I
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Lol wow. Alright so I did some testing and this is what I concluded.

AFTER the super animation, while Harley is still unable to move, if you press any button during this time, your opponent will be immune to all jump attacks. So if you want to continue the super combo with a jump attack, you have to wait until after you're able to move THEN jump forward. All ground normals after the super still connect normally though.

Geez NRS, just wut.

Edit: Or maybe it's just they have a few invincible frames before you can hit them to continue your super combo. I'm just all sorts of confused right now.
 
Spinky

Spinky

Neutral Skipper
Sooo among other things, B22 got nerfed instead of buffed and Harley has the only clashable B3 in the game? Wow. I love NRS, but I honestly don't understand how they can just let things like this slip by.

Before anybody asks why I'm typing in pink with a Bieber avatar, I lost a bet.
 
deg222

deg222

Best Zatanna that uses Aquaman
Killphil said:
I just played the patched version for the first time last night and my friend clashed my b3 several times in our set.
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Hmm, I can't get it to clash in practice or local versus. Maybe it's an online or character specific thing?
 
Killphil

Killphil

A prop on the stage of life.
deg222 said:
Hmm, I can't get it to clash in practice or local versus. Maybe it's an online or character specific thing?
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It was offline. My dlc was disabled but my friend uses Shazam..it was def. the patched version. PS3.
 
16 Bit

16 Bit

Mash d+1~Cat Claws
Elder God
NetherRealm Studios
There was a bug where Harley b+3 was clashable but it was fixed in a hotfix. If you're up to date it's not clashable. You can have the 1.06 patch but not the hotfix. To get the hotfix you might need to go into the multiplayer online and wait a few minutes. The fix to Nightwing's MB Staff Spin was also part of this hotfix so an easy way to make sure you're up to date is to see if Grundy can duck the MB Staff Spin. So Harley players, always test your setups in tournament to make sure.
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
GGA 16 Bit said:
There was a bug where Harley b+3 was clashable but it was fixed in a hotfix. If you're up to date it's not clashable. You can have the 1.06 patch but not the hotfix. To get the hotfix you might need to go into the multiplayer online and wait a few minutes. The fix to Nightwing's MB Staff Spin was also part of this hotfix so an easy way to make sure you're up to date is to see if Grundy can duck the MB Staff Spin. So Harley players, always test your setups in tournament to make sure.
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The ever so wise Mr Based 16 Bit.
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
btw I dont really get the "Based" jokes, I dont know what they are supposed to mean, but for some reason i find them funny
 
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