Harley Quinn MU Chart

[Azxrath.]

Harley Quinn MU CHART:

Aquaman: 3-7
Atrocitus: 5-5
Bane: 6-4
Batman: 5-5
Black Adam: 4-6
Black Canary: 6-4
Blue Beetle: 5-5
Brainiac: 4-6
Captain Cold: 6-4
Catwoman: 4-6
Cheetah: 4-6
Cyborg: 6-4
Darksied: 4-6
Deadshot: 4-6
Dr Fate: 3-7
Firestorm: 4-6
Flash: 4-6
Gorilla Grodd: 6-4
Green Arrow: 4-6
Green Lantern: 5-5
Joker: 5-5
Poison Ivy: 5-5
Red Hood: 5-5
Robin: 5-5
Scarecrow: 4-6
Starfire: 3-7
Sub Zero: 5-5
Supergirl: 4-6
Superman: 4-6
Swamp Thing: 5-5
Wonder Woman: 5-5


4 GOOD MUS, 11 EVEN MUS, 16 BAD MUS

This is all undisputable facts but feel free to discuss any numbers

@allharleymains

 

[Mista_Snacks]

its not undisputable

She doesn't beat Batman and she beats Atro

 

[Basic Stupidity]

she does not lose to sups

 

[Azxrath.]

its not undisputable

She doesn't beat to Batman and she beats Atro

I can agree on 5-5 vs Batman but i always see harleys talk about it being losin for bm so i just put it losing, feel me?

 

[Kotal_Wannabe]

AQman 4-6 yes, maybe 3-7 even still
Atro 6-4 imo
Batman is 5-5
Canary 6-4
Brainiac 5-5
Catwoman 4-6
Cyborg 5-5
deadshot 4-6
Ivy 4-6 (imo)
red hood 5-5
robin 6-4

 

[Mista_Snacks]

Cheetah is also 6-4 according to cheetah community.

 

[Kotal_Wannabe]

she does not lose to sups

yeh she fucking does lol

 

[Basic Stupidity]

yeh she fucking does lol

give me one reason. she forces sups to use air lasers and can option select them with straight shot everytime and her cupcakes keep him out of the air

 

[Azxrath.]

give me one reason. she forces sups to use air lasers and can option select them with straight shot everytime and her cupcakes keep him out of the air

How are you forced to use air lasers friend

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

IMO:
She beats Cheetah 6-4

She beats Black Canary 6-4

She loses to Catwoman 4-6

I agree with everything else.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

I can agree on 5-5 vs Batman but i always see harleys talk about it being losin for bm so i just put it losing, feel me?

Some people consider it in her favor but others consider it even. I personally think it's 6-4 but more on the even side if anything.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

How are you forced to use air lasers friend

its one of the only things sups can do to challenge harely and enforce his zoning.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

give me one reason. she forces sups to use air lasers and can option select them with straight shot everytime and her cupcakes keep him out of the air

Most of the time cupcakes are whatever since he can just air laser from fullscreen, his ground lasers are pretty useless againt her tho and she can't really punish air lasers unless he uses the non MB version, if you make them whiff you can't punish or anything big.

Not to mention her B2 whiffs thanks to his flying hitbox so whiff punishing him is pretty hard AND her main pressure tools whiff on him so yeah.

 

[DubiousShenron]

What about the Fate, Harley matchup makes it an indisputable 6-4?

Not expecting an answer, because I never get a response that supports a claim with evidence, but I tried.

Edit: MRW Op posts matchup numbers and labels then as, 'undisputed facts'. There's actually no factual information there because you just threw up numbers and gave no reason as to why

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

What about the Fate, Harley matchup makes it an indisputable 6-4?

Not expecting an answer, because I never get a response that supports a claim with evidence, but I tried.

He outzones her pretty bad, she is only a "treat" at air gunshot range but even then it's not like it's such a huge deal. She wants to get in against him and that's her chance to win, her upclose game being good against him is what makes this MU not as bad.

Not to mention his F2~glyph pressure is extremely good against her. Her D1 abd B2 get low crushed by a next F2, MB B3 gets broken so her best option is to IA J2 which can be punished if he just ducks ir or even blocks it.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Most of the time cupcakes are whatever since he can just air laser from fullscreen, his ground lasers are pretty useless againt him tho anf she can't really punish air lasers unless he uses the non MB version, if you make them whiff you can't punish or anything big.

Not to mention her B2 whiffs thanks to his flying hitbox so whiff punishing him is pretty hard AND her main pressure tools whiff on him so yeah.

hes not going to have the mb lasers forever and she option selects the mb so he has to use it everytime. eventually he runs out of options and has to get in against the zoning making his entire zoning game gone

 

[DubiousShenron]

He outzones her pretty bad, she is only a "treat" at air gunshot range but even then it's not like it's such a huge deal. She wants to get in against him and that's her chance to win, her upclose game being good against him is what makes this MU not as bad.

Not to mention his F2~glyph pressure is extremely good against her. Her D1 abd B2 get low crushed by a next F2, MB B3 gets broken so her best option is to IA J2 which can be punished if he just ducks ir or even blocks it.

Interesting, I didn't think she was one of the characters that gets abused by f2xxpush. That's never good.

And I'm assuming by "outzoning" her, you mean he outdamages her on projectile trades and orb freeze locks her down from full screen.

This actually seems 100% percent accurate if there's anything about the MU I'm missing. Sorry I haven't fought nearly any Harley's.

 

[DubiousShenron]

give me one reason. she forces sups to use air lasers and can option select them with straight shot everytime and her cupcakes keep him out of the air

Doctor fate has to zone him the exact same way and it's an even 5-5 for fate and he can't even OS his projectiles.

I'll do it for you dude. Harley, Superman 5-5. Stop complaining and adapt to the MU. Just cause you have to play it differently doesn't mean it's bad.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

hes not going to have the mb lasers forever and she option selects the mb so he has to use it everytime. eventually he runs out of options and has to get in against the zoning making his entire zoning game gone

He can also just get a life lead and lame her out. Of course he has to get in eventually but his neutral is way better than hers (specially considering she can't use her main whiff punisher against him and it's hard to AA his air dash at some ranges. And his up-close game is way better as well.

 

[Snibbor]

5-5 robin? Please explain your reasoning for that one, I've always believed Harley to be one of Robins worst MUs.

 

[Basic Stupidity]

Doctor fate has to zone him the exact same way and it's an even 5-5 for fate and he can't even OS his projectiles.

I'll do it for you dude. Harley, Superman 5-5. Stop complaining and adapt to the MU. Just cause you have to play it differently doesn't mean it's bad.

i dont even play sups anymore i was just saying what i knew

 

[Basic Stupidity]

He can also just get a life lead and lame her out. Of course he has to get in eventually but his neutral is way better than hers (specially considering she can't use her main whiff punisher against him and it's hard to AA his air dash at some ranges. And his up-close game is way better as well.

just because b2 isnt as good you act like its unusable

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

5-5 robin? Please explain your reasoning for that one, I've always believed Harley to be one of Robins worst MUs.

I just noticed he has Robin as 5-5 lol.
I am with you. I think she gives him a hard time. This MU is at least 6-4 in her favor IMO.

 

[EMPRESS_SunFire]

just because b2 isnt as good you act like its unusable

It is pretty unusable against him tho lol. You aren'y whiff punishing with that at all and as a pressure tool it whiffs. I mean you will still use it up-close but losing pretty much her whole pressure game is pretty big IMO.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I think she goes 5-5 with Atro. He air zoning and stuff is annoying but she doesn't have that many tools to deal with his pressure and oki once he gets in. Her footsies are ok but don't even compare to Atro's.