Zoidberg I like you so let me just say I am merely pointing out what could happen... I didnt say it was going to, I didnt say that it would happen... i am merely pointing out that this would fit the historical record... please dont put words in my mouth... what I am saying is just as plausible as any of your guys theories... No conspiracy.. I never once said Obama would do any of this...
Then I must have misread.
Wow you certainly come off sounding like well just silly, no one come to your door and robs you, they break into your house, all you have to do is look through the peephole and realize that you dont know this person and to be carefull in the way you treat them... LIKE how about not opening the door for strangers you dumbass and just saying through the closed door "who is it?".... Guns protecting people works on the micro scale, not the macro scale... No one in their right mind thinks they can fight the goverment with handguns and rifles... the tyranny the constitution means is the boarding of soldiers in your home and the usery that comes with it... Sad to say but guns keep the controling class from pushing the people too far... No one comes to my house and tries to compell my kids to join an army or gang or to influence you or your children because they know the population will not go for it and they WILL attack people who would try to force them... Thats why you have gangs of cops patrolling our cities but for the most part not turning into armed gangs... because they know the armed populace will hold their feet to the fire if they take it too far...
I dont necessarily agree with this, but I do think it is an interesting point.
Semantics
this is true and thats what ive been trying to say, i'm not like "Oh ITS TIME TO FIGHT THE GOVERNMENT!!!!!", guns are necessary to deter usurpation. Look at what the black panthers did to repel abusive police, he had members look out of windows with rifles and told them that tyranny would not stand. People act like this hasnt been necessary before.
Oh and by the way who forces these UNARMED communit slaves into gulags to make clothes and plastic garbage for america... THEIR OWN GOVERNMENTS DO THAT TO THEM... so how is it so far fetched something like that couldn't happen here... think about it.. right now while you have fun and type on the internet, WHOLE COUNTRIES FULL OF PEOPLE ARE FORCED INTO SLAVERY BY THEIR OWN RULERS... WHAT DO ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE IN COMMON... THEY ARE UNARMED!
And also in some cases uneducated, with no constitution to protect them.
Again I have always agreed with your posts also Zoidberg..very intelligent... I definitely think you and everyone else who even takes the time to debate this are good people..
The truth is we all get hasty and get a little defensive when we discuss these issues, they are sensitive issues that will no doubt create a bit of tension. The key is to remember at the end of the day it is just a debate and like you said, consider all the possible angles(Because rarely is one person 100% right, me included)
Yeah but the want/need for drugs is alot different to that of guns.
And I know I am not right... my argument relies on old history, and hypotheticals... I pose no real solutions, which inevitably reinforces the status quo that is obviously flawed or we would never be having these debates in the first place...
When I read the last line I looked at your avatar and laughed. Exactly what you describe.
WOLVERINES!
Also 1 quadrillion internet points to anyone who can get a .gif file of C. Thomas Howell shooting the rocket launcher in that movie....
There is no point in making assult rifles, etc, illegal for good.
I just went yesterday. It was very fun, but it really should just be recreational, like archery.
Many Americans in the military wouldn't fire on their own people. Secondly, gun owners GREATLY out number the military.
This is true, criminals will find away around it, and obtain assault rifles, but wouldn't you want harsher punishment for criminals who owned those guns? I mean, a person is just as capable of shooting a criminal with a pistol\shotgun\rifle than somebody with an assault rifle.
In New York they are now talking about banning 10 round magazines (they aren't called clips by the way). So once you give into the "who needs 30 round magazines" argument. Then it becomes "who needs 10 rounds for hunting" Governor Cuomo just said this literally in a speech last week. They want 7 round magazines in NY now.