if you time it right you should be able to beat all of DD's wake-ups other than Up Venom (which is punishable). It does take practice to get down, just keep trying@LEGEND - In the OP you suggest doing B2 or F2, D1 on DD's wakeup, doesn't seem to work for me. But I found that Sweep beats every wakeup he has with the right timing, apart from his Super but you can just block that.
EDIT: If that was you that suggested it.
I remember that 33~Savage Blast stuff you said and it's great. But doesn't his dash and his Charge look the same? Or do you just have to not give a fuck about his charge sometimes?
Like most of Raven's match ups, it's a lot of patience.. React to projectiles with low arrows and load an arrow when you block a push.... When she has trait active be even more patient until you feel you know their habits or patterns then occasionally make a read. Most times though in trait, just be patient. After B23, watch out for the kancel into lift. Don't usually try to dash after the lift when done at range as she is only minus 9 and kan D1~Lift punish you for trying to kome in. If she is trying to katch your dash after the lift, a slide kan katch her but make sure you have the meter to make it safe.
B12 is -3. She has an 8 frame D1 and kan't jump or poke out of D1~Arrow. She kan't tele on reaction to arrows as far as I kan tell. It has to be a yolo read but if you hold it, she obviously kan. Pretty much everything into redemption is interruptable.. And that's it. Guess right on the vortex and make sure you get a handle on the player's yolo-ness.
Yeah. That should work. A lot of my stuff is testing and theory fighting since I don't have as much match up experience besides Catwoman and Martian. So with that said, I theorized that I would randomly shoot arrows when I have the life lead to keep her in check and then D1 mix ups.
That's a read and she's burning meter which limits her yolo tele into vortex potential.. I'm fine with that.
If you ask the Nightwing forums you'll get as much downplaying as possible. I've been studying this match up, but I need to test out my gameplan to be sure. This is one of the match ups I feel like kould either be 5-5 if you're very on point (and know how to deal with every situation) or VERY bad.
I agree. I think ga has the advantage on mid range though, you can kinda stop (kinda) wingdings with j1, but then he can start trading with you. Up close, the moment he d1s you is the moment you lose all your momentum, which sucks balls. Full screen you cant do shit :/
Fair enough.
Also, her cartwheel is an issue. I know she had a mid and low ender from it but doesn't she also have a high variation? I ask because I thought the cartwheel kick ender was high and when I blocked it and tried to D1 her out of it I kept being forced to block or got hit.
Do the D1~Arrow fast. If you hold the arrow just a lil bit it'll kome out later.Ok, so I went up a pretty decent BG online and my D1, arrow kept getting interrupted. After D1, like vs most everyone else her D1 interrupted and then she starts her vortex again......
Then to the dojo I go to try this out. I didn't even try back dashing online because I was so overwhelmed with her vortex and wakeups. I think the D1, arrow thing is just online shenanigans then because I never hold it point blank unless I make the opponent respect the mixup first. Thanks Red
No problem.. To be honest. I don't even like using Arrow online. There's so many things you kan't do that change match ups and he needs every little detail. He's also very reaction based, especially in his kounter zoning game.
Ok i will add you as soon as i get out of work today =D
Your mean lol but i will add you. Is that Pikachu name real though.
