Frost Tournament Variation 3 discussion: ARCTIC ANARCHY

[Groove Heaven]

Grabs and KBs cancel core overload. The divekick is great, especially out of a shorthop. I'm getting -8 spaced correctly and -7 for the low. Excited to see what setups people come up with but...eh, not for me.

 

[Wigy]

Yeah ice auger got a beefy nerf on hit advantage. WHY.

Used to be able to link b32d1 in the corner now you can't and midscreen linking anything is tough.

 

[scarsunseen]

I'm not seeing the point in using this variation unfortuantely. Maybe I'll change my mind. Maybe it's too soon to tell, but it's my gut feeling.

 

[Harry Otter]

This variation kind of sucks.

update: played a little more it can be fun but ice auger is almost useless and the KB for it is just ridiculous and in the corner, it's a waste of meter just to combo off of and her dive kick doesn't combo into anything

Did well against a centurion but I don't have a lot of trouble with her.

 

[SinkFla]

I haven't been able to play at all today which sucks. But I've always liked throwing out head bombs into grabs in her first variation, does that still work? Seems kinda silly to prevent this new loadout from having a similar ability if so.

 

[Jonovah]

I haven't been able to play at all today which sucks. But I've always liked throwing out head bombs into grabs in her first variation, does that still work? Seems kinda silly to prevent this new loadout from having a similar ability if so.

Hasn't changed, thank god

 

[SinkFla]

Hasn't changed, thank god

That's hilarious lmao. What the hell NRS??!

 

[Jonovah]

I'm stupid. I thought core overload was supposed to be unblockable for the opponent. Which would of made it more viable, imo

 

[Tanno]

Ice Auger and Core Overload got nerfed there.

Ice Auger: It used to be trackable, much similar to Sektor's tracking projectiles in MKX. Now it's nerfed to have similar properties like her BF3 projectile. If left alone, it'd be a very good OKI setup.

Core Overload: it used to NOT cease its use at throw. Now it's stoppable at throw.

So far, for amp Core Overload, it needs its time (6 secs) to bring out the Freeze, so you want a very long combo to end there.

Sorry, but NRS did it again. She got Captain Cold treatment. -_-

 

[SLy]

Man they messed this one up. This whole variant is centered around her self destruct and they made it a little too restrictive. Im sticking with v1

 

[SinkFla]

Man they messed this one up. This whole variant is centered around her self destruct and they made it a little too restrictive. Im sticking with v1

Props to a fellow V1 user.

 

[SLy]

Props to a fellow V1 user.

Thank you kind sir.

 

[Harry Otter]

I want to like this variation cause I think Core Overload is a cool move and if they just utilized her move set it would be fun to watch Frosts work their way in to pull it off (making CO ex version unblockable instead of hitting mid). They should throw away Ice Auger cause it's such a low priority move, it just feels like a watered-down version of her Back, Foward 3 and not as viable. Way too many projectiles for this variation I really wish they would swap out ice auger for Core Trap or one of her other moves exclusive to Ice Machine or Frost Byte.

I'm just super bummed this variation is kind of gimmicky there's potential but NRS wants to put out boring variations I guess. Frost-Byte's still really fun though.

 

[NYCj360]

i think the variation is magical. I'll be posting my thoughts on it in a few.

 

[vegeta]

I’m not a fan. I’ll just stick to what I’ve been using.


They should just make microburst a core special move lol

 

[SLy]

i think the variation is magical. I'll be posting my thoughts on it in a few.

Saw you on stream earlier. I see your vision now. Good shit

 

[NYCj360]

Saw you on stream earlier. I see your vision now. Good shit

Thank you! I've sorted out my pros and cons and will be posting later.

 

[haketh]

i think the variation is magical. I'll be posting my thoughts on it in a few.

Is it the mobility from the dive?

 

[NYCj360]

Is it the mobility from the dive?

That and the ability to projectile right outside of b2 range fairly quickly. B2 into auger can combo from most ranges and easily be confirmed without risking getting your b22 getting flawless blocked. Also b22 into auger is a true block string.

 

[scarsunseen]

That and the ability to projectile right outside of b2 range fairly quickly. B2 into auger can combo from most ranges and easily be confirmed without risking getting your b22 getting flawless blocked. Also b22 into auger is a true block string.

What about the gap in B22?

 

[NYCj360]

What about the gap in B22?

I should have been more clear in what I meant sorry.

You have the option of doing b22 once they no longer have defensive or offensive meter. Do instead of just doing b2 auger you can still go for b22 auger safely

 

[Jonovah]

Saw you on stream earlier. I see your vision now. Good shit

I must see this

 

[Kindred]

If I recall they wanted this to be her zoning variation? I might be wrong but if that was the case, removing her shield makes no sense.

She lost her big damage from v1 and instead we get Core Overload, which I fail to see it's use. It beefs up her damage when she sweeps, does 223 or 224 and grab....ok cool but not significant in my opinion.

The dive kick is a gimmick. I tried to use it in conjunction with the bomb early on and it still doesnt really do much IMO. Sure it's fun but once you get blocked, you're done.

Im still keeping an open mind but for now ill stick with the much better V1

 

[AK Harold]

Does her detonate work well while blocking? It seems like a defensive move to set up so that when they do get in they have to worry about getting frozen. This may also be good to use on the offense in poke wars.

I don't think it's designed as a combo extender.

 

[scarsunseen]

Yes, her amplifed Core Overwill does not go away if your blocking.