Match-up Discussion Finalization of NW MU's? (Patch 1.06)

[WhatTheGrayson]

Okay Nightwing players.
There are a gazillion threads about this but idec.
Post your mu number from experience/fact.

Oppenent : Nightwing

Batman 5-5
Aquaman 5-5
Supes 6-4
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 6-4/5-5/4-6
Sinestro 7-3
Green Arrow 3-7/4-6
Green Lantern 6-4
Wonder Woman 5-5
Flash 5-5
Grundy 4-6 (unsure about this one?)
Doomsday 5-5/4-6
Bane 5-5/4-6
Raven 6-4
Hawkgirl 6-4/7-3
Shazam 5-5
Batgirl 5-5
Zatanna 6-4/7-3
Joker 5-5
Harley 5-5/6-4(again not too sure)
Black Adam 6-4
Ares 4-6
Zod 6-4/7-3
Lobo 5-5
Scorpion 4-6/3-7
Killer Frost 6-4
Lex 4-6
Catwoman 5-5
MMH 5-5

Does everyone agree or no?

@Sajam
@TakeAChance
@gpmoney
@EMPEROR PRYCE
@macro
@GuamoKun

 

[Chongo]

IMO:

NW vs Opponent
Aquaman: 4.5-5.5 Experience from Syknis and Theo
Ares: 6-4 Experience from Mr Aquaman
Bane: 5-5 Experience from Max, Bipolar, Grr
Batgirl: 4.5-5.5 Experience from Ribbz, Astronout
Batman: 5-5 Experience from King and Arma
Black Adam: 4-6 Experience from Qwark, Rico
Catwoman: 6-4 Experience from Solid
Cyborg: 4-6 Experience from Relaxed State
DS: Either 5-5 or 6-4 DS Experience from Crathen
Doomsday: 6-4 Experience from Eldriken
Flash: 5-5 Experience from Harold, BroboChett, Zyphox, SNKE
Arrow: 6.5-3.5 Experience from 7L
Green Lantern: 4-6 Experience from CptXecution
Harley: 4-6 (?) Experience from Birdsongs
Hawkgirl: 4-6 Experience from Espio
Joker: 5-5 Experience from Qwark
Frost: 4-6 Experience from Khaotik, Astronout, Ribbz
Lex: 5-5 Experience from Rev0lver
Lobo: 6-4 Experience from Oxygen, Cage Redfield
Martian Manhunter: 5-5 Experience from Jupiter
Raven: 4-6 Experience from Ducky
Scorpion: 6-4 Haven't played one since July but scorp is booty
Shazam: 6-4 Experience from Indecisive
Sinestro: 3-7 Experience from Hysteria
Solomon Grundy: 5-5 No real experience, going off of Sajam #
Supes: 4-6 Experience from Theo
WoWo: 3.5-6.5 Experience KDZ, Filipino Man, RM_Gamer
Zatanna: 4-6 Experience from Mr. Mileena, haven't played in a while
Zod: 3-7 Experience M2Dave, RelaxedState

 

[HeroesNZ]

Green Arrow is at least 6-4 Nightwing, I'd say Doomsday is 6-4 Nightwing, and I'd also say Grundy is 6-4 Nightwing.

 

[SZSR]

Will you guys have any explanations or is this just based on fighting experience?

 

[Chongo]

Will you guys have any explanations or is this just based on fighting experience?

If you ask me about a certain MU/# I'll do my best to explain it.

 

[xInfra Deadx]

It's too soon to finalize any matchup charts...even if the matchups are heavily skewed one way or the other.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I'll have to look through this when I have more time.

 

[WhatTheGrayson]

IMO:

NW vs Opponent
Aquaman: 4.5-5.5 Experience from Syknis and Theo
Ares: 6-4 Experience from Mr Aquaman
Bane: 5-5 Experience from Max, Bipolar, Grr
Batgirl: 4.5-5.5 Experience from Ribbz, Astronout
Batman: 5-5 Experience from King and Arma
Black Adam: 4-6 Experience from Qwark, Rico
Catwoman: 6-4 Experience from Solid
Cyborg: 4-6 Experience from Relaxed State
DS: Either 5-5 or 6-4 DS Experience from Crathen
Doomsday: 6-4 Experience from Eldriken
Flash: 5-5 Experience from Harold, BroboChett, Zyphox, SNKE
Arrow: 6.5-3.5 Experience from 7L
Green Lantern: 4-6 Experience from CptXecution
Harley: 4-6 (?) Experience from Birdsongs
Hawkgirl: 4-6 Experience from Espio
Joker: 5-5 Experience from Qwark
Frost: 4-6 Experience from Khaotik, Astronout, Ribbz
Lex: 5-5 Experience from Rev0lver
Lobo: 6-4 Experience from Oxygen, Cage Redfield
Martian Manhunter: 5-5 Experience from Jupiter
Raven: 4-6 Experience from Ducky
Scorpion: 6-4 Haven't played one since July but scorp is booty
Shazam: 4-6 Experience from Indecisive
Sinestro: 3-7 Experience from Hysteria
Solomon Grundy: 5-5 No real experience, going off of Sajam #
Supes: 4-6 Experience from Theo
WoWo: 3.5-6.5 Experience KDZ, Filipino Man, RM_Gamer
Zatanna: 4-6 Experience from Mr. Mileena, haven't played in a while
Zod: 3-7 Experience M2Dave, RelaxedState

I'd Say that Harley is an awkward mu, which stance is it?

 

[Chongo]

I'd Say that Harley is an awkward mu, which stance is it?

Harley, Zatanna, DD, and Gundy are the 4 I don't know as well as I'd like to, so I honestly don't know. I'd ask someone else lol.

 

[WhatTheGrayson]

Harley, Zatanna, DD, and Gundy are the 4 I don't know as well as I'd like to, so I honestly don't know. I'd ask someone else lol.

I'd say Zatanna is like 6-4 in her favour.
I've got xp from EMPR Pryce.
Grundy is 6-4 in our favour accordin to Sajam and Tyrant
Harley I'm not sure, at least 5-5

 

[SZSR]

If you ask me about a certain MU/# I'll do my best to explain it.

Why is the shazam MU in Shazams favor?

 

[OG Mannimal]

Raven-NW 5-5 IMO. Staff is a really big problem for raven.

 

[Shaazzyam]

Batman 5-5
Aquaman 5-5
Supes 6-4
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 5.5-4.5
Sinestro 7-3
Green Arrow 4-6
Green Lantern 6-4
Wonder Woman 6-4
Flash 5-5
Grundy 4-6
Doomsday 5-5
Bane 5-5
Raven 5-5
Hawkgirl 6.5-3.5
Shazam 4-6
Batgirl 6-4
Zatanna 6.5-3.5
Joker 5-5
Harley 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Ares 4-6
Zod 6-4
Lobo 5-5
Scorpion 4-6
Killer Frost 6-4
Lex 4-6
Catwoman 5-5
MMH 6-4

 

[Chongo]

Why is the shazam MU in Shazams favor?

That was a mistake, fixed. Sorry

 

[TheBoyBlunder]

Batman 5-5
Aquaman 5-5
Supes 6-4
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 5.5-4.5
Sinestro 7-3
Green Arrow 4-6
Green Lantern 6-4
Wonder Woman 6-4
Flash 5-5
Grundy 4-6
Doomsday 5-5
Bane 5-5
Raven 5-5
Hawkgirl 6.5-3.5
Shazam 4-6
Batgirl 6-4
Zatanna 6.5-3.5
Joker 5-5
Harley 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Ares 4-6
Zod 6-4
Lobo 5-5
Scorpion 4-6
Killer Frost 6-4
Lex 4-6
Catwoman 5-5
MMH 6-4

This is the best one, I disagree about MMH but I need more exp in that MU.

 

[OG Mannimal]

IMO:

NW vs Opponent

Raven: 4-6 Experience from Ducky

Can I ask why it's 4-6? What does Ducky do that makes it feel Raven advantage?

 

[Shaazzyam]

This is the best one, I disagree about MMH but I need more exp in that MU.

Yeah, if you want tomorrow we could grind out th- OH WAIT YOU STILL DONT HAVE AN XBOX.

Flexo pls<3


Oh, and it's not great for NW. Especially when the Martian player knows NW. @gpmoney recorded a set, idk if he'll post it.

 

[WhatTheGrayson]

Batman 5-5
Aquaman 5-5
Supes 6-4
Cyborg 6-4
Deathstroke 5.5-4.5
Sinestro 7-3
Green Arrow 4-6
Green Lantern 6-4
Wonder Woman 6-4
Flash 5-5
Grundy 4-6
Doomsday 5-5
Bane 5-5
Raven 5-5
Hawkgirl 6.5-3.5
Shazam 4-6
Batgirl 6-4
Zatanna 6.5-3.5
Joker 5-5
Harley 5-5
Black Adam 6-4
Ares 4-6
Zod 6-4
Lobo 5-5
Scorpion 4-6
Killer Frost 6-4
Lex 4-6
Catwoman 5-5
MMH 6-4

Martian is 5-5. EMPR Jupiter agrees that it's 5-5. It's just annoying him with ground pounds in staff.
You can't win in Escrima.

 

[Shaazzyam]

Martian is 5-5. EMPR Jupiter agrees that it's 5-5. It's just annoying him with ground pounds in staff.
You can't win in Escrima.

I've never heard of Emperor Jupiter

If any NW player feels it's 5-5, I'd be happy to play a set and show them why it's not.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I've never heard of Emperor Jupiter

If any NW player feels it's 5-5, I'd be happy to play a set and show them why it's not.

I just played him for the first time last night and I got bodied. It was like I never fought that character before. I need to play more to really learn the MU. What are the scores other NW have vs him

 

[Csalokangas]

I think grundy is 5-5 becuase if the grundy player plays it right and he know the MU very well its 5-5 or maybe 6-5 but if the NW is rush down and heavy preasure and know how to punish grundys then grundy gets blown up 4-5 or even 3-5 thats my opion as a grundy player myself.

 

[AK L0rdoftheFLY]

I think grundy is 5-5 becuase if the grundy player plays it right and he know the MU very well its 5-5 or maybe 6-5 but if the NW is rush down and heavy preasure and know how to punish grundys then grundy gets blown up 4-5 or even 3-5 thats my opion as a grundy player myself.

3-5 4-5???

It needs to be based on a set of ten. Also the numbers are assuming BOTH players know the MU.

 

[Csalokangas]

NW blows grundy up id say NW comes out the winner most of the time 6-4 in NW's favor

 

[Vagrant]

Matchups are never final.

 

[WhatTheGrayson]

I just played him for the first time last night and I got bodied. It was like I never fought that character before. I need to play more to really learn the MU. What are the scores other NW have vs him

You have to play it in staff because of his trait blowing up all of escrima's option.
Ground pound is also extremely good because it doesnt allow him to teleport so you keep him honestly that way.
Pressure the fuck out of him when he doesnt have trait.