Execution Difficulty List

[llabslb]

OMG @cR Xarakamaka you're a fucking dick dude. Let people have their god damn opinions. You probably can't even land the easiest 1 frame link on USF4 by plinking it. You probably couldn't do the easiest variant of a Dr. Doom infinite on umvc3. You probably can't even short hop on command in any KoF game. You probably don't even know WTF I'm talking about because you pride yourself for having decent execution in the easiest executable games.

No I don't play this game anymore. no I don't care about how good you are. No I don't care about your 1 top 8 placement at a tournament with less people than a sfv local. No I don't care that I'm a nobody scrub because that's all you'll call me.

But jeez dudes aren't even quoting your posts, they're posting their opinions and you're just gate keeping like "ARGH NO FUCKING LIU KANG HAS FUXKING CANCELS AND IAFBS ARRRGGHHH HES HARDEST BECAUSE I SAID" like just stop and let people have their fun.

This post made me cringe

 

[cR Xarakamaka]

OMG @cR Xarakamaka you're a fucking dick dude. Let people have their god damn opinions. You probably can't even land the easiest 1 frame link on USF4 by plinking it. You probably couldn't do the easiest variant of a Dr. Doom infinite on umvc3. You probably can't even short hop on command in any KoF game. You probably don't even know WTF I'm talking about because you pride yourself for having decent execution in the easiest executable games.

No I don't play this game anymore. no I don't care about how good you are. No I don't care about your 1 top 8 placement at a tournament with less people than a sfv local. No I don't care that I'm a nobody scrub because that's all you'll call me.

But jeez dudes aren't even quoting your posts, they're posting their opinions and you're just gate keeping like "ARGH NO FUCKING LIU KANG HAS FUXKING CANCELS AND IAFBS ARRRGGHHH HES HARDEST BECAUSE I SAID" like just stop and let people have their fun.

fact not opinion
theres a difference . i never said anything of the sort . your just one of my haters for no reason. ive given evidence. b1 into 212 isnt great. stop making it sound like im gloating. you have no idea about mkx or what your talking about . you only message me to say nasty things on here.leave me alone whoever you are. if you hate me then we can talk about that in the future when we meet one day. you mug

 

[HateMe!]

B1 WGC into 212 isn't a just frame but into F2 yes.

Oh, alright, sorry then.

How about Dualist's b12~SS RC 113 midscreen?

 

[ESP-_BLACK]

I bet you can't do Jacqui's jailing cancels.

baby shit, its not hard buddy

 

[RM AtK!]

OMG @cR Xarakamaka you're a fucking dick dude. Let people have their god damn opinions. You probably can't even land the easiest 1 frame link on USF4 by plinking it. You probably couldn't do the easiest variant of a Dr. Doom infinite on umvc3. You probably can't even short hop on command in any KoF game. You probably don't even know WTF I'm talking about because you pride yourself for having decent execution in the easiest executable games.

No I don't play this game anymore. no I don't care about how good you are. No I don't care about your 1 top 8 placement at a tournament with less people than a sfv local. No I don't care that I'm a nobody scrub because that's all you'll call me.

But jeez dudes aren't even quoting your posts, they're posting their opinions and you're just gate keeping like "ARGH NO FUCKING LIU KANG HAS FUXKING CANCELS AND IAFBS ARRRGGHHH HES HARDEST BECAUSE I SAID" like just stop and let people have their fun.

LOL

 

[Wolverine32]

Can someone fill me in on why reptile is popping up in this thread, I know nimble combos can be somewhat tricky but still isn't anywhere near the execution of a run cancel character. The only thing I found somewhat difficult as noxious is 34xxgas into f412 but that's still relatively easy with some reps in practice mode.

 

[ESP-_BLACK]

prob because the ex slide combos those are somewhat hard

 

[Osagri]

These are some of his hardest combos

114 combos also work with b12

b14, ex db1, f2, f2, f1b2, df2 (war god)
114, ex df1, f2, 1, f1b2, df2 (war god)
114, ex df1, f2, b122, db2 (sun god)
114, ex df1, f2, 1, b14, db2 (sun god)
114, ex df1, f2, 11, f1b2, totem (blood god)
114, ex df1, f2, 1, b122, totem (blood god)

We have very different opinions what's hard xD @HateMe! yea I completely forgot those f2,njp combos. They are hard

 

[HateMe!]

yea I completely forgot those f2,njp combos. They are hard

The ifj1 combo made me wanna throw the controller, the njp was easier for me.

 

[Wolverine32]

prob because the ex slide combos those are somewhat hard

I did forget about his d3 slide combos, but the ex slide combos aren't as tricky as they look.

 

[Pan1cMode]

baby shit, its not hard buddy

I'd honestly like to see a recording of you jailing b3~qbrc, 121~qbrc, 1212~df2 on a blocking character with reversal set to active.

In fact, do it 3 times since it's not hard.

 

[Tweedy]

What seem kinda hard with shinnok?

I don't think any of the characters I listed in B+ tier are necessarily difficult.

They're just harder than Alien/Cutthroat/Outlaw but not as hard as Grandmaster/Hellfire/Jax.

The only characters that I find hard on this game are the ones I put in A+ and S, honestly.

Edit: Jax can be pretty hard if you do the absolute optimal combos. He has worse bugs than Sub Zero versus crouching hitboxes, and not just against females.

 

[igotAhalo]

fact not opinion
theres a difference . i never said anything of the sort . your just one of my haters for no reason. ive given evidence. b1 into 212 isnt great. stop making it sound like im gloating. you have no idea about mkx or what your talking about . you only message me to say nasty things on here.leave me alone whoever you are. if you hate me then we can talk about that in the future when we meet one day. you mug

I don't see any problem with you challenging other people's claims on what the hardest character in the game is execution wise. They don't have to reply if they don't want too. Challenging someones claim isnt "not letting people have their opinions.

While I do believe that the claim of "hardest character execution" wise DOES have some subjectivism to it (if that's even a word), there are some objective points, such as frame data, etc.

 

[callMEcrazy]

Tier lists assume both players are at the top of the world in terms of execution, but reality is that most of us are not. So I would like to create a difficulty of execution list. So those of us a bit more casual have something to talk about and look at. Is there a community interest in this?

Forget tiers. Difficulty of playing a character doesn't depend on difficulty of execution alone. Let me give you one simple example.

Lots of people here have mentioned Dragon's fire due to the difficulty of executing the fireball cancel.

To me though Dualist is a far more difficult character to play because of how complex his gameplan is. Cyrax probably fits into the same category, and maybe even Cyber Sub.

I'm not saying execution is not a big factor. I tried Demo Sonya and quit after a couple of hours in training when I couldn't land a simple stun grenade combo. But we're leaving out characters that are difficult in terms of game plan.