General/Other - Ethereal Ethereal Variation General Discussion

[EOTL]

Ethereal now has a true fifty fifty.

21 Ex Fade allows her to continue her combo netting her 36%

2~ex roll allows her to combo for 26% Both into her new hella advantage rodeo.

what do you mean by "true 50/50"?
How is that truer than 21~roll vs 2~ex roll? Its nice that the low option is a now safe though and f4 ~ex tele grants a combo where f44 did not?

 

[TakeAChance]

what do you mean by "true 50/50"?
How is that truer than 21~roll vs 2~ex roll? Its nice that the low option is a now safe though and f4 ~ex tele grants a combo where f44 did not?

The word new was actually supposed to be in there lol

"Mileena has a new true 50/50"

I'll go back and edit.

 

[GTDoffen]

I am sure you guys know this, but Vanish is now completely invincible on wake-up. Trying to meaty with Lao`s EX spin, have not hit a single time.
Honestly, that is pretty huge. She basically gets up whenever she wants. All of the three options are invincible and opponent can`t react to which way she is going.

 

[TheGabStandard]

I am sure you guys know this, but Vanish is now completely invincible on wake-up. Trying to meaty with Lao`s EX spin, have not hit a single time.
Honestly, that is pretty huge. She basically gets up whenever she wants. All of the three options are invincible and opponent can`t react to which way she is going.

You have no idea how happy you have made me

 

[Tyrlix]

You have no idea how happy you have made me

Also, if the opponent "hits" you while you're going invisible with the EX-Fade. It's counted as a block and Mileena doesn't take any chip damage. Chub Zero's EX-Slide stopped right on it's track and you can punish it with 123 string and go for some really nasty damage. Too bad she can still be grabbed out if she holds the fade.

 

[MajinBerserker]

What's up boys. I've been stabbing and biting since release, but now I'm looking to go pale and start fading.
So if I've been reading correctly, EX Fade (Vanish) away/towards is an armored wake-up option now? A la Shazam in IGAU.
Also, the 21-Vanish-21xxx is a true full combo? Or just mix up opportunity. Either way, this is fantastic.
Please correct me if I've gathered mis-information.

 

[TheSpore]

Lord Nurgle has renewed faith in dis vari, Lord Nurgle shall now learn dis vari FOR CHAOS

Seriously its bout damn time they fixed this vari

 

[GTDoffen]

It does not have armour. It has gotten invincibility on start-up frames, so it is basically invulnerable all the way trough the teleport. Seems very viable as a wake-up and get out of pressure tool.

Can still be grabbed out of though.

EDIT: Lol, put Mileena as dummy and record 12 then ball roll. Use Vanish toward. As someone mentioned earlier, it counts as they hit Mileena, but she does not get put into blockstun. But the opponent still has recovery after the moves, so I believe we can punish a lot of moves which are usually safe

 

[TakeAChance]

She has actual block traps now, and F14 has a use since it guarantees a free 123/4 or 21 string.

123~Ex Fade guarantees a 21 mixup. Cassie cannot interupt it.

F24 (this would be your jump in block string) Ex Fade guarantees 123/4 or 21. On characters other than Cassie/Kung Lao she gets a f4 off it which is huge.

 

[MajinBerserker]

Okay. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[TakeAChance]

What's up boys. I've been stabbing and biting since release, but now I'm looking to go pale and start fading.
So if I've been reading correctly, EX Fade (Vanish) away/towards is an armored wake-up option now? A la Shazam in IGAU.
Also, the 21-Vanish-21xxx is a true full combo? Or just mix up opportunity. Either way, this is fantastic.
Please correct me if I've gathered mis-information.

21 EX Fade 21 is a true combo, but you would be better off hit confirming the 21 and go into F12B4. More damage

 

[MajinBerserker]

She has actual block traps now, and F14 has a use since it guarantees a free 123/4 or 21 string.

123~Ex Fade guarantees a 21 mixup. Cassie cannot interupt it.

F24 (this would be your jump in block string) Ex Fade guarantees 123/4 or 21. On characters other than Cassie/Kung Lao she gets a f4 off it which is huge.

Fantastic! Very good.
I spent all my post-patch time in Rav last night, so this will be great training material for tonight.

 

[MajinBerserker]

21 EX Fade 21 is a true combo, but you would be better off hit confirming the 21 and go into F12B4. More damage

Okay! Noted.

 

[TheGabStandard]

21 EX Fade 21 is a true combo, but you would be better off hit confirming the 21 and go into F12B4. More damage

That was the first thing I thought of when I read the patch notes, if there was enough time to do F12B4 after EX Fade, thanks for letting us know

 

[TakeAChance]

Oh my god. I am going to have to create a tech video.

F14~Ex Fade leaves you at +23 lol

 

[TakeAChance]

Alright, two quick videos incoming.

This one just shows her new 50/50 with the safe low option, and of course the unsafe ex roll.

 

[JDE]

Are you doing the regular Ex fade or Ex Fade forward/back or just in general? @TakeAChance

 

[TakeAChance]

Are you doing the regular Ex fade or Ex Fade forward/back or just in general? @TakeAChance

Ex fade. Regular fade will not pick up the combo.

 

[JDE]

Ex fade. Regular fade will not pick up the combo.

Forward fade or Backwards fade with the EX?

 

[JDE]

You can use F4 with Ex Fade as well as B12 . They all guarantee combos.

 

[Sultani]

Hoooooooly shit.

Six to midnight reading this stuff.

Probably going back to mileena now.

 

[ZeroEffect]

After what I read on the EN Fade startup, it looks NRS... actually did what I asked for in my ideal buffs. Who knew? Plus she got more than that with a much better pressure game. So now, with EN Fade giving her basically a free mixup on block, it's gonna be reeaally hard to hold on to meter now, lol. (EN Fade into EN Roll mixups could deplete her bar instantly, but the urge to use it is really powerful).

Don't get me wrong, I'm very happy with the change, but I think Mileena's gonna be getting a LOT more free grabs now. Keep in mind, 2 grabs = 1 combo.

 

[Sultani]

F14 EX fade throw.
F12B4 EX fade throw
B12 EX Fade throw
21 EX Fade throw
F23 EX Fade throw
F4 EX fade throw
21 EX fade SIKE block. Eat it.

Let go of block. I dare you.

Being +23 or +24 may add viability to F3 use once you've conditioned the opponent to block after EX fade.

She stronk.

 

[MajinBerserker]

The throw options.....
Yes. I'm so happy this variation is looking hopeful now.

 

[dotunderscore]

F14 EX fade throw.
F12B4 EX fade throw
B12 EX Fade throw
21 EX Fade throw
F23 EX Fade throw
F4 EX fade throw
21 EX fade SIKE block. Eat it.

Let go of block. I dare you.

Being +23 or +24 may add viability to F3 use once you've conditioned the opponent to block after EX fade.

She stronk.

Block low and D3 when you see teleport seems to counter all these

yes she can ex roll but would be burning 2 bars just to get in