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Bracketology.Exactly.
16-bit just took 2nd at a major also. Catwoman must be badly broken right?
Bracketology.Exactly.
16-bit just took 2nd at a major also. Catwoman must be badly broken right?
2nd place is still 2nd place. You still have to win.Bracketology.
No, you've not been saying the exact same thing. You were saying Kuh-bawl was ok, and that's why you are getting blown up.Been saying the exact same thing all day and was getting haters for it. Gotta love tym.
Who else was as consistently dominant through MK's lifespan? We had KL early, who after 2011 won evo 2012 but not much else. We had Jax who was only dominant for a few months before people learned the MU and were able to start exposing him. We had Kenshi who did very well and blew up a lot of chars, but he had holes and couldn't pick up major wins and was only dominant by one player. We had Cyrax who's recognized as broken but had the least consistency of these in making top 3's.Could say the exact same thing about a few other characters too. Doesn't mean he was broken by any means.
Actually you are very wrong. Might want to go back and read before you post anymore.No, you've not been saying the exact same thing. You were saying Kuh-bawl was ok, and that's why you are getting blown up.
agreedWho else was as consistently dominant through MK's lifespan? We had KL early, who after 2011 won evo 2012 but not much else. We had Jax who was only dominant for a few months before people learned the MU and were able to start exposing him. We had Kenshi who did very well and blew up a lot of chars, but he had holes and couldn't pick up major wins and was only dominant by one player. We had Cyrax who's recognized as broken but had the least consistency of these in making top 3's.
IMO there's a difference though in being broken and being overpowered. Cyrax is broken, Kabal and MMH are overpowered. They have too much in their toolset that makes them too well rounded over everybody else. MMH isn't as bad as Kabal in this regard but he's in that position within the context of this game.
this is wrong. reo didn't start using mileena until a month before evo after he completely dropped quan chi cage and jade. he even said on the vsm stream before evo he was going to main and work on a completely new char which he hinted was female.Did people seriously forget OnlineTony was doing Kabal infinites at WNF while Reo was using Mileena?
ect had over 100 entrants it was big. the revelation-ect era was just 2 or 3 months. you guys are making it sound like it was the entire first year of mk9And ECT?
I was playing then. I played Michael. He was ridiculous. Probably the best I played in that era.
He used Cyber Sub Zero in Top 8 after losing to PL. After that tournament he was maining Cage and Reptile. Tony had been using Kabal for months.this is wrong. reo didn't start using mileena until a month before evo after he completely dropped quan chi cage and jade. he even said on the vsm stream before evo he was going to main and work on a completely new char which he hinted was female.
reo was the first person to show case high level kabal play at power up 2011. onlinetony was maining stryker at this time at WNFs. michaelangelo was an ermac player at this tournament. reo was the first person doing spin cancels and f4 resets. just look power up footage for pools. he was the first kabal to qualify in a top 8 using all kabal.
i know tony t got heavy into kabal after. but my point is reo was the first to discover the block infinite, the resets, and the zoning that made kabal dumb. he innovated kabal and even tony t and erik warda said watching reo play justin wong at power up inspired them to want to pick up kabal.He used Cyber Sub Zero in Top 8 after losing to PL. After that tournament he was maining Cage and Reptile. Tony had been using Kabal for months.
Started the post with that typo.Sigh...
First, let me preface this with you are an idiot. Ok? Ok.
Second, you can do a half-ass job for 50 years and it means less than someone who does a perfect job for 5.
You can do something for a long time without progressing at all. Its called stagnating. Puddles do it, and apparently your intelligence took the same route when you hit the age of 3. Time doesn't make someone a better player, I could spend 5000+ hours in training mode and it wouldn't make me a better player because my progression isn't as good as someone who goes to tourneys for 50 hours and achieves more.
Third, people remember you for being good. They don't think "Michael Jordan played basketball for 15 years, he must be good." They think "Michael Jordan has x number of MVP rings and accomplished Y during his career, he must be good." You can get some kind of fame for being good for a long time, sure, but that doesn't come unless you're good in the first place. People base success on how far you've come, not how long it took you to get there.
Lets take arguing for example: You can argue with me for a long time, months and even years, but that doesn't make you any better at it or any less of an incompetent boob. I, on the other hand, can argue you well for about 5 minutes and make more progress than your years of pointless idiocy. You can't give me one example of someone who received an award for doing something without them doing it well, and that alone proves my point. Success isn't based on how long you do something, its based on you getting something done.
Now then if you're done derailing the topic, you can go sit in a corner somewhere and contemplate how much of an ass you've made yourself out to be.
I understand if it came off that way, but my point was Tony was showing up at tournament after tournament with Kabal and doing well early in the game's life after Reo switched to other characters. You were selling us the bill that Reo is the only successful Kabal in MK's lifetime.i know tony t got heavy into kabal after. but my point is reo was the first to discover the block infinite, the resets, and the zoning that made kabal dumb. he innovated kabal and even tony t and erik warda said watching reo play justin wong at power up inspired them to want to pick up kabal.
youre making it seem like tony t was the first person to play kabal and find his dirt while reo was playing mileena day 1 which isn't true.
CDJr about to turn it up.
Rip Jupiter
Well to be fair, comparing Online Tony to REO doesn't really make much sense at all.I understand if it came off that way, but my point was Tony was showing up at tournament after tournament with Kabal and doing well early in the game's life after Reo switched to other characters. You were making it seem like Reo is the only successful Kabal in MK's lifetime.
i never said reo was the only good kabal. i said earlier in the thread reo had accomplished the most with kabal out of anyone and no single kabal players comes close to half of his resume of achievements. i thought you were saying onlientony started the kabal ndc bs first. technically mikeangelo started playing kabal before onlinetony too so onlinetony would be the 3rd person to play kabal right after michaelaneglo.
I understand if it came off that way, but my point was Tony was showing up at tournament after tournament with Kabal and doing well early in the game's life after Reo switched to other characters. You were making it seem like Reo is the only successful Kabal in MK's lifetime.
Nah, I know better, but what people are trying to tell you is that the character was known to be stupid way before Reo picked him up full time, and other people had tournament results with him.i never said reo was the only good kabal. i said earlier in the thread reo had accomplished the most with kabal out of anyone and no single kabal players comes close to half of his resume of achievements. i thought you were saying onlientony started the kabal ndc bs first. technically mikeangelo started playing kabal before onlinetony too so onlinetony would be the 3rd person to play kabal right after michaelaneglo.
obviously kabal is dumb but people are overrating it a bit when theyre saying kabal is broken to the point you can't say broken without mentioning kabal. i've seen reo and every other top kabal player lose to other characters. kabal still took work and training to get results with. he wasn't this character you could just use as a auto win button on the character select which some keep over exaggerating in that sense
Nah, I know better, but what people are trying to tell you is that the character was known to be stupid way before Reo picked him up full time.
Online tony had been playing the game since release.i know tony t got heavy into kabal after. but my point is reo was the first to discover the block infinite, the resets, and the zoning that made kabal dumb. he innovated kabal and even tony t and erik warda said watching reo play justin wong at power up inspired them to want to pick up kabal.
youre making it seem like tony t was the first person to play kabal and find his dirt while reo was playing mileena day 1 which isn't true.
Thats sounds like a lot of downplaying to me from you. I dont see people blowing you up when you fight Jupiter. I got outplayed. I have no OS for losing lol. I died with a smile on my face. I just need to play the MU more. Its bedn awhile since Ive fought a good MMH.lmfao what?? He was literally standing in front of his face WAITING for him to wake up.
And even if he *has* to guess, it's completely fair that Jupiter has to guess once he gets touched, right? He doesn't even have a chance to mash wakeup :'(
And "ignorant fool"? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black, lmao.
onlinetony didn't play kabal on release. he was a OG stryker main. you can watch the first few WNF on mk9 for source. it wasn't until after power up where he got into kabalOnline tony had been playing the game since release.
Kabal was broke, no character should have all winning matchups, cyrax was op as he didnt win every matchup, u could call rax damage broke tho. As far as MMH goes, definitely very good, but jupiter played masterfully for sure.Who else was as consistently dominant through MK's lifespan? We had KL early, who after 2011 won evo 2012 but not much else. We had Jax who was only dominant for a few months before people learned the MU and were able to start exposing him. We had Kenshi who did very well and blew up a lot of chars, but he had holes and couldn't pick up major wins and was only dominant by one player. We had Cyrax who's recognized as broken but had the least consistency of these in making top 3's.
IMO there's a difference though in being broken and being overpowered. Cyrax is broken, Kabal and MMH are overpowered. They have too much in their toolset that makes them too well rounded over everybody else. MMH isn't as bad as Kabal in this regard but he's in that position within the context of this game.
onlinetony didn't play kabal on release. he was a OG stryker main. you can watch the first few WNF on mk9 for source. it wasn't until after power up where he got into kabal
kabal has a few arguable 5-5s
Kabal was broke, no character should have all winning matchups, cyrax was op as he didnt win every matchup, u could call rax damage broke tho. As far as MMH goes, definitely very good, but jupiter played masterfully for sure.