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Jaku2011

Filled with determination
I've never landed his air command grab (when do you even use it?) but shouldn't H vanish into dash up 5M jump cancel air stuff work?
Idk I just started messing with him. It should but it's all just awkward his hit boxes are weird af I just wanted to see if anyone had anything specific or a consistent way to get 2S to land after vanish.
 

TrulyAmiracle

Loud and Klear~
Idk I just started messing with him. It should but it's all just awkward his hit boxes are weird af I just wanted to see if anyone had anything specific or a consistent way to get 2S to land after vanish.
Well don't go for 2S lol, I think that's only worth it in the corner and if you have an assist that can convert well off of it.
 

Jaku2011

Filled with determination
You answered your own question when I replied to yours. lol Thats why i said do your research yourself if you dont like the answers given to you when ppl are trying to help. Simple.
You don't need to tell anyone to do that and no, I did not answer my own question. And I wasn't saying that I didn't like any of the responses all I asked was if anyone had anything that could go into 2S because the conversions off vanish were weird with him. If I didn't get anything that's fine I was just asking.
Who are your assists?
Teen Gohan off of 2S I also have SS Goku which works too but I'd rather use Gohan for the conversion, it's easier.
 
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JBeezYBabY

Mr. Righteous
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Jaku2011

Filled with determination
I'll try to mess with it when I have some time, I wanna say something like Vanish dash 5M 3S 2S+ Gohan into j.L M 214L should work. Give it a try if you can.
So I was able to put something together 3S alone put them out of range for 2s in this combo but this ended up working
air grab, H, vanish, dash, M, 3S, 2S, Gohan, super dash, LM2H LL 214L.
Thanks for the help just needed a few ideas to get it going.
 
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Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Whats a faster way to get matches, ring match or casual search? I've been exclusively doing the latter
Yeah, casual matches for sure. I see ring matches as pretty much exclusively for friends, even though it can be for randoms too. Most randoms seem to just play ranked or casual matches.
 
Can someone explain to me what the fuck Kid Buu does?

Like he doesn't seem exceptionally strong or weak to fight against. Just... Weird... like I press buttons against this character with so little expectation of whether I'm going to hit or miss it's crazy.

I didn't understand the fundamental tradeoffs of his offense. Where he has openings and where I need to hunker down and block.
 

God Confirm

We're all from Earthrealm. If not, cool pic brah.
Can someone explain to me what the fuck Kid Buu does?

Like he doesn't seem exceptionally strong or weak to fight against. Just... Weird... like I press buttons against this character with so little expectation of whether I'm going to hit or miss it's crazy.

I didn't understand the fundamental tradeoffs of his offense. Where he has openings and where I need to hunker down and block.
thats basically what he does. He's not negative enough on anything to really press buttons at anytime, its usually a guessing game as to whether he cancels into a special or does whatever. After a rolling ball on BLOCK you should be able to force him to block a 2H if you want a definite time to get started.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
Any body got a Piccolo combo off his Air grab? I do jS H vanish but everything after feels awkward to hit Ive been trying to get 2S after into kid Gohan assist but the hitbox is weird and 2S hardly works after vanish, any ideas?
Some assists do have some weird hitboxes, and it's hard to time them down. I even have an almost hard time to time j.5H with Hit assist as Beerus.

After Air Grab, I do j.5L5M2H>SD>j.5L5M5L>JC>j.5L5M5L (You may use instead j.5M5H)>Vanish>IAG (Instant Air Grab)>214H (You CAN do the L version, but it's a techy KD that leaves with an OKI with assist, and has a very tight link for a lvl 3)... After the 214H, you may use any power you like for ultra damage.

After the Vanish, you have only 4 options:

1) To do a DR (Throw).
2) To do SD.
3) IAG.
4) Dash Forward to hit him and prolong the combo.

And that is if you meant the Air Grab, and not the AA.

If you meant the AA, then this is the following combo for you:

AA Grab> 6S>5H>2H>Vanish>IAG>214H... After the 214H, you may use any power you like for ultra damage. Or if you want to extend the combo, instead use ...Vanish>SD...
 
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Jaku2011

Filled with determination
Some assists do have some weird hitboxes, and it's hard to time them down. I even have an almost hard time to time j.5H with Hit assist as Beerus.

After Air Grab, I do j.5L5M2H>SD>j.5L5M5L>JC>j.5L5M5L (You may use instead j.5M5H)>Vanish>IAG (Instant Air Grab)>214H (You CAN do the L version, but it's a techy KD that leaves with an OKI with assist, and has a very tight link for a lvl 3)... After the 214H, you may use any power you like for ultra damage.

After the Vanish, you have only 4 options:

1) To do a DR (Throw).
2) To do SD.
3) IAG.
4) Dash Forward to hit him and prolong the combo.

And that is if you meant the Air Grab, and not the AA.

If you meant the AA, then this is the following combo for you:

AA Grab> 6S>5H>2H>Vanish>IAG>214H... After the 214H, you may use any power you like for ultra damage. Or if you want to extend the combo, instead use ...Vanish>SD...
I shouldn't have said air grab. I meant jS. I don't think you can get L off jS can you? And 2H doesn't pop them up for super dash off jS that AA combo sounds pretty dope though I gotta test that out.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
This is nothing new, but running 16 on point with two assists that back him up is hilarious and disgusting lol.

Land a hit almost anywhere and you get a triple dunk, all the way to the corner combo that does enormous damage for a single bar, into a nasty corner mix/pressure game and if you open themt again in the corner assists are generally back and you repeat. It's basically two touches to death and it's so nasty.

I cant see dropping Hit to run 16, but Jesus that combo is vicious.
 

Tanno

The Fantasy is the Reality of the Mind
I shouldn't have said air grab. I meant jS. I don't think you can get L off jS can you? And 2H doesn't pop them up for super dash off jS that AA combo sounds pretty dope though I gotta test that out.
Test this out, if you like. It works, because I happened to extend the L autocombo with JS. It was just a good practice for me.
 

EntropicByDesign

It's all so very confusing.
Ok,

So what are everyone's thoughts on where to put Hit? Generally speaking, since team comp plays a roll here.

Its interesting, because Hit doesnt seem to do a whole lot without meter in terms of big damage, but at the same time he really seems to thrive off the back of assists like Black's Beam or Kid's.. whatever Kid's assist is. I also seem to notice, when I watch Hit players better than myself, he seems to get a lot of damage off incidental hits and short, succinct combos. It all comes together to make him hard to place in some respects.

I run 21 - Hit - Kid Buu and my own thinking is to place him Point or Mid with Kid always "behind" him in some way. Kid's assist is way too strong for Hit not to have on deck and use when possible. 21 is a good point IMO, getting a lot of mileage without meter, but if I can find some strong combo synergy with her assist, Hit would be great out front.

Id like to hear everyone's thoughts though
 

Juggs

Lose without excuses
Lead Moderator
Yeah, he’s literally broke, lol. Have you seen his glitches? Too funny man.

I agree with this list for now, but not fully. For instance, I believe Kid Buu is also S tier. Hit could be as well, but I haven’t played as him or against him enough to really know. Can’t base anything off of watching SonicFox, he makes any character look broken.

All I can truly comment on is that A.Gohan, Vegeta, and Black are correct, since that’s my team. I also strongly agree with 16 and Cell being at the top. Cell in particular is... Perfect.