Question - Unbreakable Does Unbreakable do anything for Sub-Zero?

[Dankster Morgan]

So Grandmaster is Sub-Zero's best option for the vast majority of matchups, and Cryomancer has its purposes. But is Unbreakable ever Sub-Zero's best choice for a matchup? Is there even one single matchup that Unbreakable is the best option? This isn't a buff thread whatsoever, I'm just curious about this.

 

[GuamoKun]

So Grandmaster is Sub-Zero's best option for the vast majority of matchups, and Cryomancer has its purposes. But is Unbreakable ever Sub-Zero's best choice for a matchup? Is there even one single matchup that Unbreakable is the best option? This isn't a buff thread whatsoever, I'm just curious about this.

its the swaggiest variation and its basically CSZ-lite.

and yes those are perfectly valid reasons to use him

 

[boba_buster]

unbreakable is great for wasting your time and making you completely forget how to actually play sub zero , the more I put into unbreakable the worse I get

 

[Kingshootahz]

unbreakable is great

FTFY

 

[God Confirm]

its the swaggiest variation and its basically CSZ-lite.

and yes those are perfectly valid reasons to use him

I wish it was

give him Divekick and a TP and maybe he'll be worthwile

 

[Kickbykick]

I enjoy the no chip against pressure chars

 

[Dankster Morgan]

I enjoy the no chip against pressure chars

There is something to be said for that. But at the same time I don't want to sit there and let them build meter when I could just be playing grandmaster and actully be able to do shit. Ex Klone is a better parry than parry lol.

 

[crosshair271]

The variation pretty much went from Unuseable to Unplayable.

 

[Second Saint]

I think Unbreakable may actually be Sub-Zero's best option against Venomous D'vorah. You just outright remove one of that variations major strengths. Also, the sound it makes when you have ice armor up and are blocking bug spray is really cool.

 

[Mr_Swizzer]

He is the go to option against lao, If you are a block master just aura up n block until the time is correct then punish.

No chip damage taken & watch out for the grab.

 

[Yak]

Some people I guess can make him work. I kind of just feel like unbreakables style just doesn't work that well in this game with what he has.
Maybe it's just me but I think this game just favors offense too much and playing defensively usually just ends badly.

 

[LaidbackOne]

He is the go to option against lao, If you are a block master just aura up n block until the time is correct then punish.

No chip damage taken & watch out for the grab.

Yep, while Lao builds shittons of meter.

 

[exflyingbooty]

you have one of the best parries in the game and you don't have to deal with chip damage so you can just deal with stagger pressure. This variation isn't as bad as people make it to be.

 

[DDutchguy]

you have one of the best parries in the game and you don't have to deal with chip damage so you can just deal with stagger pressure. This variation isn't as bad as people make it to be.

The thing with Unbreakable's parry is that if you make the right read, you get 20-25% for it. If you don't you get full combo punished for the opponent's highest damaging punisher. The risk/reward ratio just isn't right for a move that is integral to the variation. I'll say that when it comes to other parries in the game, Unbreakable is the only one to get a full combo for it. But as I said it's incredibly risky to perform.

Edit: Spelling error fixed

 

[Braindead]

The thing with Unbreakable's parry is that if you make the right read, you get 20-25% for it. If you don't you get full combo punished for the opponent's highest damaging punisher. The risk/reward ratio just isn't right for a move that is integral to the variation. I'll say that when it comes to other parries in the game, Unbreakable is the only one to get a full combo for it. But as I said it's incredibly risky to perform.

Edit: Spelling error fixed

You can get easy 30% now from a parry after the aura buffs.

Yep, while Lao builds shittons of meter.

^^^^^^ this is the main problem with Unbreakable.

 

[boba_buster]

You can get easy 30% now from a parry after the aura buffs

Until you play online and can barely link a 11 after the meter less aura...

 

[Braindead]

You can get easy 30% now from a parry after the aura buffs

Until you play online and can barely link a 11 after the meter less aura...

Lmao yeah buff a character because online.

Great logic there.

 

[boba_buster]

I never said anything about buffing

 

[Braindead]

I never said anything about buffing

Fair enough.

 

[boba_buster]

The problem is the vast majority of ppl who play only have online as an outlet because there isn't enough ppl local to play with. I live in New Orleans and there's absolutely no scene here

 

[Braindead]

Don't judge anything by online. If online sucks they should work on online, not on characters.

 

[boba_buster]

It's really shitty to final have something to work with now but the links are so tight you can't use it , has anyone ever landed a b12xxaura b12 online ?

 

[boba_buster]

I don't judge the game by online but online is how I play and it's very depressing to not be able to play your favorite character/variation because of it

 

[Braindead]

It's really shitty to final have something to work with now but the links are so tight you can't use it , has anyone ever landed a b12xxaura b12 online ?

I agree that online fucks Unbreakable up, but it's much more than simply B12xxAura, B12. Unbreakable is a passive/reactive character that focuses on defense which relies a lot on reactions, which are fucked up online.

Anyway, I just use b12xxAura 242 instead. You lose only 1% damage but you gain one more frame of leniency.

 

[boba_buster]

Yea but even 242 drops too much , been using aura f33xxdb1 for 25%