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DLC character poll.

drift221

Shocking Your System
We need to separate who should be in this game and who could be in the game, because with DC some characters have seniority.

Should be in the game
1. Martian Manhunter (Most seniority)
2. Captain Cold (to make up for the lack of an "Ice" character)
3. Black Manta (Aquaman's main villan, He's one of the main villans on the Young Justice show so the kid know him.)
4. Poison Ivy (The name will sell copies, her move set will be ridiculous! )
5. Static Shock ( People know the show, we need more black characters, THE ONLY BLACK DC SUPERHERO TO HAVE HIS OWN SHOW!)
 

Casselman

Also: LockUpYourBones
We need to separate who should be in this game and who could be in the game, because with DC some characters have seniority.

Should be in the game
1. Martian Manhunter (Most seniority)
2. Captain Cold (to make up for the lack of an "Ice" character)
3. Black Manta (Aquaman's main villan, He's one of the main villans on the Young Justice show so the kid know him.)
4. Poison Ivy (The name will sell copies, her move set will be ridiculous! )
5. Static Shock ( People know the show, we need more black characters, THE ONLY DC SUPERHERO TO HAVE HIS OWN SHOW!)
1. 100% agreed
2. We seen an ice attack vs flash in the first trailer. Something tells me that wasn't for nothing. Premature request?
3. Don't know much about him but he is both heavily requested and looks applicable to a fighter - Agreed
4. I Love Ivy. But I can't imagine her without being surrounded by plants. I think her fans would be let down or she would be too weird. We need applicable and fluent fighters. If they can adapt her visuals, I'm in. If not - Disagree
5. Lack of an ice character. But you want 3 (maybe more) electric chars? I also recall Batman having his own show :) -Respectively Disagree.
 

Vilén

too smart to play MKX
Scarecrow would be so awesome. Fear gas character trait where he turns into a monster version, or has like powered up beast versions of specials. And really play up that whole "drunken fist" thing. Seriously, check this shit out:

The Scarecrow uses a variety of toxins that cause his victims to hallucinate that their phobias have come to life. He wears his Scarecrow mask to enhance the effect of the hallucinogen (instilling fear in all who see him) as well as to avoid being poisoned by his own toxin. Although not physically intimidating, Scarecrow is adept in physical combat, using a style called "violent dancing", based partly on the crane style of kung fu and on drunken boxing.

Like... come on? That, with like crazy monster effects? Why is everyone not asking for that? Fucking WANT.

 

Spinky

Neutral Skipper
Superman had his own show too... not sure how you could forget that. I would say yes to Poison Ivy but Swamp Thing's probably gonna make it over her.
 

drift221

Shocking Your System
1. 100% agreed
2. We seen an ice attack vs flash in the first trailer. Something tells me that wasn't for nothing. Premature request?
3. Don't know much about him but he is both heavily requested and looks applicable to a fighter - Agreed
4. I Love Ivy. But I can't imagine her without being surrounded by plants. I think her fans would be let down or she would be too weird. We need applicable and fluent fighters. If they can adapt her visuals, I'm in. If not - Disagree
5. Lack of an ice character. But you want 3 (maybe more) electric chars? I also recall Batman having his own show :) -Respectively Disagree.
5. I ment to say he is the only BLACK dc Characters to have his own show. I have come to terms with the fact that their are enough lightning chars in the game now which means that he won't get in but I still think he is the best DC character.
 

tazzmission

Banned
wb and nrs should do it like this


release 6 charachter packs of 3

first pack ( june 2013)

mmh

fire storm

zatana


second pack ( july 2013)

braniac
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general zod

captain cold

third pack ( august 2013)

metalo

bizzaro

medusa





fourth pack( september 2013)

red torando

captain atom

green lantern john stewart

fifth pack ( october 2013)

static shock

blue beetle

redhood/jason todd


sixth pack ( november 2013)

black hand

atrocitus

killer frost
 

tazzmission

Banned
That is WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too many characters.

just think of the replay value though

and there are millions of fans who would shell out the money for such a thing and correct me if im wrong but is there a season pass with this game or was that not announced?
 

Spinky

Neutral Skipper
just think of the replay value though

and there are millions of fans who would shell out the money for such a thing and correct me if im wrong but is there a season pass with this game or was that not announced?
We don't know about that yet.
 
1. Red hood
2. Black canary
3. starfire
4. blue beetle
5. Lobo
6. Poison Ivy or swamp thing(Ivy is more popular then swamp thing so she is more likely but I would not mind swamp thing)
7. Martian Manhunter
8. Scarecrow
9. Black Manta
10. Zatanna or Circe
 

Casselman

Also: LockUpYourBones
Wesker shouldn't have even been in RE5. The sorry excuse for his character we got, was terrible. Keep him away from Injustice!
 

BlackCyborg

I am Arkham
1. Doctor Fate:

-Unique powers not yet being represented.
-A look that is flashy and interesting enough to appeal to those who may not know him yet.
-A decent reception when hinted by Boon.

2. Martian Manhunter

-Unique abilities. (Phasing, Shape-shifting, Telepathy etc.)
-Popular amongst comic book fans.
-Cool unique look.

3. Swamp Thing

-Earth and wildlife abilities.
-Popular amongst comic fans.

4. Clayface

-Shape-shifting.
-Recognizable amongst most audiences.
-Relevant (recent appearance in Arkham City)

5. Scarecrow

-Specials could cause unique effects to the other player.
-Visually appealing specials.
-Popular well known character amongst all audiences.
 

BlackCyborg

I am Arkham
wb and nrs should do it like this

release 6 charachter packs of 3

first pack ( june 2013)
mmh
fire storm
zatana

second pack ( july 2013)
braniac
general zod
captain cold

third pack ( august 2013)
metalo
bizzaro
medusa

fourth pack( september 2013)
red torando
captain atom
green lantern john stewart

fifth pack ( october 2013)
static shock
blue beetle
redhood/jason todd

sixth pack ( november 2013)
black hand
atrocitus
killer frost
You really want to pay $60+ for all them?

How much were the DLC characters in MK9? $5 per character, or $15 for 4. So if we have 18 characters as DLC, you are looking at $90 for all the characters individually, or probably $60 for all the bundles. That's ridiculous.

Other things to consider, if you know how game design works...

It takes money to create these things. So they need to make a good enough profit to make it worth it, You put out 6 DLC characters, for a reasonable price such as $20, people are likely to buy them. Because the 6 chosen, will be popular picks that people will likely want. And if people like the game, they'll be willing to fork over a little more to obtain it. Here's the problem. 18 characters, is a huge gamble on turning a profit. Asking your fans to pay $60-$90 extra, is a huge difference than $20-$30 extra. Also, the characters start becoming less popular and "must have" the more you start to try and offer. Remember, to turn a profit, you have to offer characters that appeal to ALL audiences, not just niche fanbases of super hardcore comic book fans. Most characters worth paying for that appeal to the masses, are already in the game. I can think of 6 for sure sellers that aren't. I can't think of 18. Let's look at your list:

**mmh
fire storm
zatana
**brainiac
**general zod
captain cold
metalo
**bizzaro
medusa
**red torando
captain atom
green lantern john stewart
statick shock
blue beetle
**redhood/jason todd
black hand
atrocitus
killer frost

From your list of 18, I highlighted the ones that actually MIGHT appeal to the general audiences. Mostly because of their appearance in a film, animated film, or are relevant enough to be known outside of comic book readers. The exclusion being Red Tornado, and I will get to that.

The rest, aren't known well enough, by look nor by name(Capatin Atom, Medusa, Zatanna, Firestorm etc.) to garner any real hype, or that "must have" feel, enough to warrant shelling out $5 for one. As well as some being too similar to what we already have(Atrocitus, John Stewart, Static Shock etc.), we already have 2 lanterns, and 2 electricity users, John is better suited as an alt. skin.

Now, of the 6 that are actually plausible to sell well, we have:

Martian Manhunter
Brainiac
Zod
Bizarro
Red Tornado
Red Hood

I included Red Tornado, because he actually has the look, a cool name, and the abilities to warrant DIFFERENT gameplay. Martian Manhunter is similar in reasoning, and his fanbase is a little less niche. However, the rest, are based purely on their appearances in either the upcoming Superman: Man of Steel(Zod) or Superman: Unbound animated movie(Brainiac), or their appearances in past films or animated movies. They could potentially sell. You HAVE to pick people who will sell enough to warrant the time, money, and effort put into them. Unless someone is a HUGE comic book fan, to know all these characters, and likes them enough, and has money to just throw around...most people aren't going to pay $5 each for the rest of the people up there, or over $60 for the lot. You may pay for them, but your average consumer doesn't care enough about most of those characters, known them, or want to waste their money after dropping $65 on the game itself. That's not a good business move.

Now, that's where we get to the next reasoning. TIME. It takes TIME to make these. You have to discuss who you want, then make concept art, then make models, then motion capture moves, then animate, then render, then write and create endings, and then test to work out any bugs/glitches. It takes time to do these things. 4 characters? My guess would be approx. 2 months. 18? We're talking approx. 8-10 months. Guess what? They have another game to make as soon as they are done with this current one. MK10 is sure to come in the next 3 years, and they can't be dedicating time and man power to a game that's already finished. They need to move on at some point.

My last point, is simply, from our end of things...gameplay. Right now, the 22 characters shown off, look awesome. They have put a ton of work in, and chose the right characters to ensure everyone looks/feels great and plays differently than the rest. Right now, they are putting in a ton of hours trying to polish things off and ensure it is as balanced as possible, so no one character gets left out, or too powerful. That's not easy, and is a constant process even after the game's release. With a likely roster of 24-26, that's no easy task. Now, add 18 characters to that. Now, all of a sudden, characters don't feel so unique anymore, you start having characters that feel/play too similar, and the even bigger issue, things get unbalanced that much easier. The more options you give, the harder it is to keep organized. It was a continuous struggle to fix things and keep things as balanced as possible in MK9 with 32 people after DLC, and you want them to do it with 42 characters?! Gameplay is going to SUFFER.

You can't just say "man, put more characters in, more characters in, more characters in!" and expect the same quality, attention to detail, and overall balanced gameplay with 42 characters, as you would with 32. It just doesn't work like that. It requires the phrase "Less is more".

A 24-26 character roster at launch is great. With 4-8 DLC characters to follow being a decent addition, with 6 being the ideal number. I can think of 6 that will sell to the masses, turn a profit, add unique gameplay, and managable to keep balance.

Remember, less is more. Gotta save some for next game.

just think of the replay value though

and there are millions of fans who would shell out the money for such a thing and correct me if im wrong but is there a season pass with this game or was that not announced?
Please read my long ass response, because it will help you understand just why that's wrong.
 
Martian Manhunter - It already isnt fair he isnt in the main roster. He is going to be DLC
Zatanna - My most wanted character. NRS has an open field of variety for her moveset. Sad she didnt make it. Very popular
Black Canary - Very popular character. Its sad she didnt make it in the initial but hopefully DLC
Scarecrow - Like you said. Hes perfect for this game. Scythe & Fear Toxins
 

kurtz

Noob
These are who I think will eventually make it in (and I'm fine with it)

1. MMH
2. Lobo
3. Captain Cold
4. Black Canary
5. Black Manta or Ocean Master
6. Powergirl

Those I would like to see besides the 6 above:

1. Ras Al Ghul
2. Zatanna
3. Blue Beetle
4. Booster Gold
5. Katana
6. Swamp Thing/Poison Ivy
7. Dr. Fate
8. Voodoo/Animal Man/Beast Boy
9. Professor Zoom

For those asking for Scarecrow I'm pretty sure he is currently dead in the Injustice verse...could be wrong though.
 

Casselman

Also: LockUpYourBones
An updated list to the time of this post. I tried to count anybody's top 10 pics. Forgive any doubles by different names. I did the best I could. There were a few that were pics and unlabelled. Only about three. I also included the MKU votes from the same thread. here is the most accurate list, so far:

Top 10:

1.MartianManhunter 48
2.Lobo 23
3.Black Canary 19
3.BlueBeetle 19
5.BlackManta 18
6.Power Girl 15
6.Scarecrow 15
6.Swamp Thing 15
9.Captain cold 14
10.Zatanna 13
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Static Shock 10
Animal man 9
Poison Ivy 9
Atrocious 7
Booster Gold 7
Starfire 7
Braniac 6
Darkseid 6
Redhood 6
Zod 6
Clayface 5
Black Hand 4
Firestorm 3
Katana 3
KillerMoth 3
Circe 2
Deadshot 2
Dr. Fate 2
Gorilla Grodd 2
Hawkman 2
Rorschach 2
Terra 2
Deadshot 2
Allan Scott 1
alternate Green Lantern? 1
Beast boy 1
Black lightning 1
Bizzaro 1
Bleez 1
Captain Underpants? 1
Captain Atom 1
Cheshire 1
Despero 1
Fatality? 1
General Eiling 1
Green Beetle 1
Guy Gardner 1
idgaf? 1
Jake Jensen 1
Kartor 1
KillerCroc 1
Red Tornado 1
Karu-Sil 1
Kid Flash 1
Kyle Rayner 1
Metalo 1
Mirror Master 1Allan Scott 1
Monarch 1
Mera 1
Mr. Terrific 1
Myra 1
Myxlpic? 1
Ocean Master 1
Orm 1
Ozymandias 1
Parasite 1
Prometheus 1
Question 1
Ras Al Ghul 1
Razer 1
Rick Grimes 1
Speedy 1
Sandman 1
Supergirl 1
The Spectre 1
Vandal savage 1
Vixen 1
Wonder Twins 1

Original post will be updated with this list, also. List as of 7:40AM March 21.
 

Seapeople

This one's for you
An updated list to the time of this post. I tried to count anybody's top 10 pics. Forgive any doubles by different names. I did the best I could. There were a few that were pics and unlabelled. Only about three. I also included the MKU votes from the same thread.
My vote was for Rick Grimes :p Martian Manhunter, Starfire & Black Canary would definitely be nice though.
 

Casselman

Also: LockUpYourBones
My vote was for Rick Grimes :p Martian Manhunter, Starfire & Black Canary would definitely be nice though.
haha I thought that was a troll. I will add now.

For future reference. Please no picture-only lists. I do not know the DC universe roster off of heart. please include in simple text form as well as however you like. Also no THIS GUY/THIS GIRL. Please list specifically in order. Text is needed. Its very hard to tally half-votes.