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Skkra

Skkra

PSN: Skkra
Matix218 said:
wow, did slips win the whole GBS with deathstroke or did he end up getting beat by someone else?
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He didn't win, was eliminated by Max's Bane if I recall. But he was top 3 I believe? Very impressive display. And his defense was INSANE.
 
Matix218

Matix218

Get over here!
General M2Dave said:
Well, actually, he was top 5 in version 1.01. Low gunshots were -12 on block and did 3%+ of chip damage. He was a ferocious zoning character with a solid offense and respectable footsies. With the zoning entirely eliminated, some good tools remain but far from anything that is considered top 10.
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Yeah as much as I hate to admit, this is very true. He is a solid mid tier "jack of all trades, master of none" character. Without the extremely good zoning he is just left with up close tools that are good, but do not do anything better than several other characters up close (meaning there are characters that have better tools at that range). I still think DS has the best F3 in the game though which does help. If his trait was not a steaming pile of useless garbage he could still potentially be viable (because trait would help give some of his strong zoning back)... oh well
 
Skkra

Skkra

PSN: Skkra
There is nothing fucking wrong with this character. He has all of the tools necessary to win.

This game feels extremely balanced right now. Fucking NIGHTWING almost won Ghost Battles last night. Can everyone just SHUT THE FUCK UP about this or that character not being viable? My theory is that this game is so balanced at this point in time that the only reason people think any character sucks is that the right player hasn't picked them up yet and shown what they can do.
 
Slips

Slips

Feared by dragons. Desired by virgins.
Deathstroke is pretty good. Not top 10. But I don't think loses any mu beyond 4-6 which is all anyone can ask for. Very Sektor-ish which is a good thing considering he made top 8 all the time in the right hands. King is awesome but was able to hit him with some things he didn't know about. Can't wait to play with him more and hope he comes out again. Super nice guy and the best Batman I've played.

General M2Dave said:
Well-said.

@FOREVER KING

J.3 to b+2 is not a frame trap. You can low poke in between j.3 and b+2.
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This is not entirely correct. Depends on how deep j3 connects.
 
Big Pampering

Big Pampering

Master
GGA Slips said:
Deathstroke is pretty good. Not top 10. But I don't think loses any mu beyond 4-6 which is what anyone can ask for. Very Sektor-ish which is a good thing considering he made top 8 all the time in the right hands. King is awesome but was able to hit him with some things he didn't know about. Can't wait to play with him more and hope he comes out again. Super nice guy.



This is not entirely correct. Depends on how deep j3 connects.
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Good character choice btw
 
AK elitegoomba

AK elitegoomba

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GGA Slips said:
pretty good. Not top 10. But I don't think loses any mu beyond 4-6 which is all anyone can ask for. Very Sektor-ish which is a good thing considering he made top 8 all the time in the right hands. King is awesome but was able to hit him with some things he didn't know about. Can't wait to play with him more and hope he comes out again. Super nice guy and the best Batman I've played.



This is not entirely correct. Depends on how deep j3 connects.
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Are you telling me ds j3 has VARIABLE BLOCKSTUN?! seriously nrs what the FUCK
 
Vagrant

Vagrant

Champion
Doombawkz said:
Vagrant came out of a retirement home and put the hurt on them all too with deathstroke.
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Dude LBSH I was jobbin hard.

People were just surprised that I make myself stay patient and block now instead of mashing wakeup under pressure.

I also demand props for not using the "I don't even play this game anymore" Option Select.

Other than that I missed punishes and damage galore. Which is fine, and pretty much how I expected it to go.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Vagrant said:
Dude LBSH I was jobbin hard.

People were just surprised that I make myself stay patient and block now instead of mashing wakeup under pressure.

I also demand props for not using the "I don't even play this game anymore" Option Select.

Other than that I missed punishes and damage galore. Which is fine, and pretty much how I expected it to go.
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Honestly I think a popular debate inbetween matches was if you were high, or rather how high were you exactly.

My money was on Deathsmoke.
 
Indecisive

Indecisive

We'll burn you all—that is your fate!
Okay long rant time. DS is Viable. Although he somewhat lacks the insane shit that other characters have. DS Does still have Low gun shots. Which although are unsafe can still be used to duck under certain projectiles. He has Decent mix up game. Although its isn't the best in the game he is still actually able to get you in a mix up. His J3 is very good and its a fucking sword. His Jump 1 has decent crossup potential. His B3 has a pretty decent hit box although its not as big as Aquaman who i swear goes to the top to the screen. DS has 2 decent WU options although Sword Flip is unsafe as fuck its still not terrible. And sword spin can be punished on wiff. I know a lot of people would love to actually have a WU option. And if you get crossed up you can get either WU option still since they are the reverse input of each other. DS i feel like is a Jack of Trades he does all this stuff and has decent options but doesnt do anything the best. Also his F3 is really good. It can Cross up mis screen on Low crouching Characters and can cross up well in the corner. I feel like when i watch people play against DS they play the MU Sloppy. And run into a lot of Gun shots. Or stop blocking MB Gun shots. People need to listen to the game sounds IMO. So you can hear him Grunt and Scream when he goes for MB. Like each time someone just stops blocking MB low guns i cry a bit inside. @AVN PTH jonnitti @G4S Silent Jay Is this pretty accurate. You two are the DS players i play the most and you both know my gripe with Game Volume and DS MB Guns. ALSO LBSH DS has awesome quotes when he shooting you. I MAKE YOU BLEED.
 
Doombawkz

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Vagrant said:
This has been known and discussed in the DS forums since month 1. The deeper you land a j3, the more adv you get.
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To get rid of the misconception, no.
You get the same amount of advantage no matter where you hit it.
You simply lose more advantage the higher up you are because its lost while you land, where as when you hit it deeper you get to withdraw from that advantage bank immediately.

If j.3 gives you +13, no matter where you hit it you get +13. Its just a matter of if you're spending 5 frames landing or just 2.
 
Vagrant

Vagrant

Champion
Doombawkz said:
Honestly I think a popular debate inbetween matches was if you were high, or rather how high were you exactly.

My money was on Deathsmoke.
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I'm usually high on stream.
Not reacting to Kings overhead in the first match should have tipped everyone off to that ;)
 
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