Question - Cyber Sub-Zero Cyber Sub-Zero...Is he too Strong? Brief Overview

[Lokheit]

He has so much stuff that could've been used to help Cryo and UB (even proposed on their buff proposal threads plenty of times)... but they had to put a 4th variation for the first time so the fridge could return to remind us of the most forced story retcon of MK9... and on top of that make him much more viable than the real SZ...

 

[Vak Phoenix]

NERF TANYA

 

[REYTHEGREAT]

@YOMI REO how do you feel about Cyrax and his bombs?

 

[RYX]

The consistently broken DLC is getting really old.

If I permanently switch to SF that will be the reason.

Huge kudos to NRS for the improved netcode but this broken DLC nonsense has to stop.

I don't even understand why they are doing it. I doubt it even affects sales, as casuals will not know a character's tier placement before buying them.

they're more concerned with making the dlc fun to watch and play

I am okay with that

 

[Derptile]

The part that sold me was the cancelable backdash, there's no way that this character can be taken seriously. It's almost as if he's designed to be a mini-boss, I honestly think if they don't change him that he will be banned in tournies.

 

[TheIrishFGCguy]

The consistently broken DLC is getting really old.

If I permanently switch to SF that will be the reason.

Implying Capcom aren't equally as guilty of it...

 

[THTB]

He has so much stuff that could've been used to help Cryo and UB (even proposed on their buff proposal threads plenty of times)... but they had to put a 4th variation for the first time so the fridge could return to remind us of the most forced story retcon of MK9... and on top of that make him much more viable than the real SZ...

Let's not start these shenanigans...

 

[THTB]

Implying Capcom aren't equally as guilty of it...

I was just thinking this lol.

 

[rubmytaco]

I don't see how this character can be any less than broken. Tons of extremely stupid stuff

He needs to be able to set up these traps safely, or else it will be more of a gimmic. However, he seems very solid so far. I think his divekick should probably be a mid though.

 

[Lokheit]

Let's not start these shenanigans...

It's not hard to be more viable than at least 2/3s of SZ variations even if CSZ isn't broken.

 

[RYX]

He has so much stuff that could've been used to help Cryo and UB (even proposed on their buff proposal threads plenty of times)... but they had to put a 4th variation for the first time so the fridge could return to remind us of the most forced story retcon of MK9... and on top of that make him much more viable than the real SZ...

robots are cooler than fruity men in spandex

 

[Asodimazze]

Some good setups, and this is just the start...

 

[Derptile]

We'll have to see how he develops. I can see him being an offensive juggernaut, but having something wrong like bad defense or being meter dependent for reliable setups.

Bruh, he has fast armor, good pokes, and a Kano-tier special-cancelable backdash. Plus all of the setups shown don't require meter and since they hit twice armored wakeups are gonna get eaten up.

Not saying he's dumb, but come on. Where's his weakness?

 

[THTB]

It's not hard to be more viable than at least 2/3s of SZ variations even if CSZ isn't broken.

I get what you're saying. But honestly, for all we know, CSZ could be worse than that.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Reptile didn't have safe divekicks and hard to blockables

Pounce is Reptile's safe(r) divekick. And if Forceballs hit low they'd have the exact same set-ups as these.

 

[THTB]

Bruh, he has fast armor, good pokes, and a Kano-tier special-cancelable backdash. Plus all of the setups shown don't require meter and since they hit twice armored wakeups are gonna get eaten up.

Not saying he's dumb, but come on. Where's his weakness?

Didn't know what he had for armor at all. Well scratch bad defense off the list lol.

 

[Jaku2011]

Wow that looks stupid. It's amazing how a character with a billion tools like this gets the ok from NRS.

 

[IrishMantis]

Pounce is Reptile's safe(r) divekick. And if Forceballs hit low they'd have the exact same set-ups as these.

But Forceballs dont hit low

plus i dont think Reptile can keep throwing out pounce with instant recovery

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

Some good setups, and this is just the start...

EX Bombs create puddles that grant full combo? Ok now that definitely makes CSZ more like Cyber Reptile

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

But Forceballs dont hit low

plus i dont think Reptile can keep throwing out pounce with instant recovery

That's why I said adjusted. They have very similar tools where CSZ's are clearly the better ones. The only tool they share where Reptile is better is the 6f EX Slide punisher but why would you ever think about playing defense with CSZ anyway?

 

[ninjutsubreh]

yea i think hes way too strong and versatile with no weaknesses at all, hes like quanchi mixed with hunter predator, very agile and good wakeups too

 

[rubmytaco]

Some good setups, and this is just the start...

Stupid? Yes, pretty much. But this isn't an eternal restand situation, right? 55% for a bar isn't that much more than what others can do. Just wait and see

 

[Alright RyRy]

I finally like a broken character. yay me.

 

[Name v.5.0]

Reo didnt even show off the bullshit you can do in the corner. If CSZ has the meter to burn, he can loop you for days. I'm guessing people will find ways to do it without meter too.

 

[rubmytaco]

Stupid? Yes, pretty much. But this isn't an eternal restand situation, right? 55% for a bar isn't that much more than what others can do. Just wait and see

By the way, what happens if you backdash that last setup, instead of using armor?