I would totally agree with you if we weren't talking about MK11. This is the first in the line of NRS games that hasn't really had a "wait and see" period. I'll spare you my speculation as to why that is, but I can't think of a single instance where any significant tech went undiscovered for more than a few weeks. Compare that to previous titles. Everybody used to hold their breath until EVO so all the secret tech would leak out, but it seems like what we knew going into EVO was about the same was what we knew coming out. Maybe there's some extra dimension of depth we're all not seeing, but NRS hasn't really elluded to anything like that. I must say it's really convenient to spend a few days labbing a character and there being a really good chance you've found everything there is to find, but I can't decide if that helps or hurts this game's entertainment value.When you’re adding 20+ variations to a game, some of them will be good, some of them will be ‘wait and see’, and some of them will not.
That’s a fair viewpoint — but it hasn’t even been a few weeks yet; it’s been precisely 3-4 daysI would totally agree with you if we weren't talking about MK11. This is the first in the line of NRS games that hasn't really had a "wait and see" period. I'll spare you my speculation as to why that is, but I can't think of a single instance where any significant tech went undiscovered for more than a few weeks. Compare that to previous titles. Everybody used to hold their breath until EVO so all the secret tech would leak out, but it seems like what we knew going into EVO was about the same was what we knew coming out. Maybe there's some extra dimension of depth we're all not seeing, but NRS hasn't really elluded to anything like that. I must say it's really convenient to spend a few days labbing a character and there being a really good chance you've found everything there is to find, but I can't decide if that helps or hurts this game's entertainment value.
I'm not talking about the patch specifically. I play on PC and god knows when I'll get to play it. I try not to bitch too much until I've actually played what I'm bitching about. It's more of a lifespan argument for the game that was speculated about, but not truly realized until EVO was over. Most of the combo's and setups I do with the characters I play were discovered either within 3 weeks of the games launch, or a week after a gameplay altering patch. I think they may be hamstringing the game to make it easier to control from a developer perspective.That’s a fair viewpoint — but it hasn’t even been a few weeks yet; it’s been precisely 3-4 days
I don’t expect it to take a year, but you’d hope people would at least wait a month or so (or come on, 2 weeks minimum) before they declare every 3rd varation useless in every MU.
I believe that over the coming month, people will find creative uses for some of the unsung 3rd variations and we’ll be seeing that play out in tournament.
Remember when no one played Yaas Queen because it sucked? Yeah.
I was specifically talking about this patch, though. It hasn't even been a week.I'm not talking about the patch specifically. I play on PC and god knows when I'll get to play it. I try not to bitch too much until I've actually played what I'm bitching about. It's more of a lifespan argument for the game that was speculated about, but not truly realized until EVO was over. Most of the combo's and setups I do with the characters I play were discovered either within 3 weeks of the games launch, or a week after a gameplay altering patch. I think they may be hamstringing the game to make it easier to control from a developer perspective.
My sincerest thanks for posting this.What I've learned from the internet is that all characters are now bottom 5 and totally unviable. Math facts.
The exceptions are Geras who can't die, and Terminator because characters you've seen but never played are always top tier. I'm 103.456% sure he will also be bottom 5 like everyone else on the 8th.
Raiden is the worst character in the game. He is so bad in this game that he is retroactively the worst in IJ2 and MKX. More than that, he is actually like bottom -7, being worse than all unreleased characters; including those in KP2 which doesn't even exist.
That's -7. More math facts. You all know you can't cheat math.
Nah man. You can’t argue with those Raiden experts. They’ve gotten to God rank on KL AND played the character since day one. Can’t you see they are only trying to make the character vIaBLe?What I've learned from the internet is that all characters are now bottom 5 and totally unviable. Math facts.
The exceptions are Geras who can't die, and Terminator because characters you've seen but never played are always top tier. I'm 103.456% sure he will also be bottom 5 like everyone else on the 8th.
Raiden is the worst character in the game. He is so bad in this game that he is retroactively the worst in IJ2 and MKX. More than that, he is actually like bottom -7, being worse than all unreleased characters; including those in KP2 which doesn't even exist.
That's -7. More math facts. You all know you can't cheat math.
Lol I think we've learned kinda the same thing from the internet.... Nobody knows what they're talking aboutWhat I've learned from the internet is that all characters are now bottom 5 and totally unviable. Math facts.
The exceptions are Geras who can't die, and Terminator because characters you've seen but never played are always top tier. I'm 103.456% sure he will also be bottom 5 like everyone else on the 8th.
Raiden is the worst character in the game. He is so bad in this game that he is retroactively the worst in IJ2 and MKX. More than that, he is actually like bottom -7, being worse than all unreleased characters; including those in KP2 which doesn't even exist.
That's -7. More math facts. You all know you can't cheat math.
I can get this but let's look at raiden and kollector. Both under average characters but tournament usage and community consensus and they add variations to them that are objectively buns.Good lord just because your favorite character is below average does not mean the developers are incompetent. The game has 27 characters and 81 variations. They're not all gonna be winners
Must be really easy to say that as a Cetrion and Geras player lolzGood lord just because your favorite character is below average does not mean the developers are incompetent. The game has 27 characters and 81 variations. They're not all gonna be winners
Gotta be Raiden. I don't usually hop on these trains for perceived biases, but they gave the man two moves that directly get in each other's way and removed superman fly for his trouble.This is probably the worst offender.
Squander(ed) Kollector seems to have been specifically tuned to not win at all.Good lord just because your favorite character is below average does not mean the developers are incompetent. The game has 27 characters and 81 variations. They're not all gonna be winners
I feel stupid now because it apparently already had this the whole time.press dd4 or some shit to call it back.
The auger and dive are pretty decent, but core overload is pretty much uselessFrost got kinda screwed
They nerfed the shit out of her bomb and her auger.
NRS at this point seem clueless or criminally lazy.
Yeah no I jumped the gun. I just didn't see the need to nerf any of it, minus the dive which is actually the dumb moveThe auger and dive are pretty decent, but core overload is pretty much useless