Before MK9 can evolve any further, It's time to admit the truth..

[Tom Brady]

Denzell Smoke vs Sub is 7-3 but you have to play someone who hits the reset 99.999% of the time from every situation to see why its 7-3.

 

[Wemfs]

There are a lot of 8-2s in this game but I think only Kabal/Kenshi have them in their favor. 9-1 is debatable. Probably only a few MUs that are that bad.

Sub vs Kenshi a 9-1?

 

[Death]

8:2 match ups have existed in this game since day one and still exist to this day. Kabal and Kenshi are responsible for the vast majority of them.

Mainly because they beat majority of the cast from every part of the screen.

 

[Death]

Sub vs Kenshi a 9-1?

Yes along with KL/Sheeva and Kenshi vs 5 other characters at least. lol

 

[RYX]

Not going to say who to avoid causing problems but there was someone who beat someone recently and the person who lost made SOOOOO MANY FUCKING EXECUSES for why they lost to this player. They did not give the player any props or say they got outplayed or anything. Just generic shit and I wanted to say something but id rather just avoid causing issues. Be salty for 5 minutes then say ggs.

Edit: Quoted the wrong post but whatever

lol it's meeee

 

[Lumpymoomilk]

outplayed or not a good Mileena player can go on autopilot with little risk while a good Sheeva player has to read them like a fucking librarian to win the match.

 

[Derptile]

Can everyone finally realize 3-7 is a bad MU and 4-6 is unfavorable?

I hate it when people say "X character wins/loses 6-4" and everyone flips out.

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Is there really that big of difference between 7-3 and 8-2? They're both really difficult. I see a big difference between 5-5, 6-4, and 7-3, but not 8-2 and 9-1

Well obviously it is matchup dependant, but I see it as 46 you may have to make one more read. 37 you have to take risks but if you are right you will be successful. 8 2 means you can be risky and guess right but your opponent still has to mess up for you to win most of the time

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

Well obviously it is matchup dependant, but I see it as 46 you may have to make one more read. 37 you have to take risks but if you are right you will be successful. 8 2 means you can be risky and guess right but your opponent still has to mess up for you to win most of the time

Well I see 7-3, 8-2, and 9-1 all about the same

 

[HGTV Soapboxfan]

Well I see 7-3, 8-2, and 9-1 all about the same

I think once it gets to 82 it doesn't really matter in tournament play. But there is a big difference in 73 to 82 imo. I would play a 37 in tournament but I would switch for a 28, which is why I am playing Sonya now instead of cage

 

[UsedForGlue]

Kabal vs CSZ: 9-1
Scorpion vs Sheeva 8-2
Kabal vs Kano 9-1
Smoke vs Freddy 8-2
Kenshi vs Jade - 9-1


Just off the top of my head.

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

Scorpion vs Sheeva 8-2

What? explain

 

[MashPotatoTower]

Stryker and sheeva have to be bottom 2 definitively! Stryker literally has nothing and probably has severally 9 - 1 to 8 - 2 mu like cage Sonya jax kabal raiden blah blah blah
Iol patch MK

 

[UsedForGlue]

What? explain

Ask any Sheeva Main, im sure they will explain it better than I can.

All I can say is, Scorpion can turtle her easily, she can't teleport stomp at all, as a simple scorpion teleport into 111 Spear will punish it everytime, and its hard/almost impossible for her to punish a B2 that isn't point blank.

Its a terrible match.

 

[Jimmypotato]

Just level up, bro. It's not that bad. You get 50% for jumping a Spirit Charge. 6-4 at worst.

Maaaaaaaaan Mayo,

Spend 50% of my life getting that one jump in, it gets broken, spend other 50% of my life getting another jump in, round over, rinse repeat with that strat, lol

 

[MIKECALDWELL]

yes, there are times where the mu is so bad that you have to really take some risk, and when it doesnt pan out, ohh.. you played the mu wrong. No, you got out played in a really bad MU. and yes.. even when you lose a really bad mu, it still counts as being outplayed. losing a bad/good mu doesnt mean anyone played anything wrong, it means someone got outplayed.

This is like saying a gunfighter beat a knife fighter because he outplayed him. It had less to do with the skill level of the two fighters and more to do with their weapons/abilities. For the knife fighter to overcome the "bad matchup" he would have to be much more skilled, but even then it would still be a challenge. In general, people don't get outplayed in 9-1 matchups. They get overpowered.

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

Ask any Sheeva Main, im sure they will explain it better than I can.

All I can say is, Scorpion can turtle her easily, she can't teleport stomp at all, as a simple scorpion teleport into 111 Spear will punish it everytime, and its hard/almost impossible for her to punish a B2 that isn't point blank.

Its a terrible match.

I guess I can see that with the b2 being hard to punish

 

[Tom Brady]

This is like saying a gunfighter beat a knife fighter because he outplayed him. It had less to do with the skill level of the two fighters and more to do with their weapons/abilities. For the knife fighter to overcome the "bad matchup" he would have to be much more skilled, but even then it would still be a challenge.

while I agree... if you brought the knife into the gunfight knowing it was a gun fight, be a good sport and say you got outplayed.

 

[MIKECALDWELL]

while I agree... if you brought the knife into the gunfight knowing it was a gun fight, be a good sport and say you got outplayed.

Yea I guess you're right. If a guy is stubborn enough to stick with a shitty character then he should be willing to gracefully lose.

 

[Lumpymoomilk]

Ask any Sheeva Main, im sure they will explain it better than I can.

All I can say is, Scorpion can turtle her easily, she can't teleport stomp at all, as a simple scorpion teleport into 111 Spear will punish it everytime, and its hard/almost impossible for her to punish a B2 that isn't point blank.

Its a terrible match.

Interesting I always found that match tough but I thought it might have just been me.

 

[Espio]

I guess I can see that with the b2 being hard to punish

She can punish back 2 for full combo, that's not particularly difficult.

 

[HGTV DrFlash44]

She can punish back 2 for full combo.

usedforglue your response

 

[Espio]

usedforglue your response

I was just being informative, I'm not going to argue about it.

 

[UsedForGlue]

I was just being informative, I'm not going to argue about it.

I never said I was, I don't just say things for the sake of it.

When Scorpion does his perfect spaced B2, Sheeva cannot punish it, you have seen Slips do it many times, and Sheeva suffers the same fate.

 

[Pikachu]

Tom Brady vs TYM is 10-0 matchup.