Really this is only one way of getting out of the traps, or to clash or push block. This is the only disadvantage to atrocitus, with practice if you can read someone's mb b3 or f3 you can do a well timed cat shot, and this at the same time as another string will be enough hits to break the armour as you can shout the cat mid string. Plus f22 actually hits fast, it's defieving, the amount of armour I have broke through with f23 is unreal if you can time both hits to catch them just right.
Also I've just thought, I woke up with bf1 and it snuffs armour because the first two hits of the punches are fast enough to break the armour. This means that with the frame traps if you can read someone's going to do a mb b3 or f3 you can throw out a random bf1, if they block it you can make it safer with mb, or completely safe with a well timed cat shot, so it's worth throwing it out with Dex active. This is the only possible tech I can think of
I'm a scrub i accept this....but I literally lost to a cyborg who just air blasted me repeatedly and I didn't think to mb roll until i died
Yeah MB roll after blocking a fireball is the key. Once you get in you get to go ham.
He's fine. They just want you to have to commit to doing the vomit blockstring instead of getting to hit or block confirm.
You didn't really expect them to keep that did you?
I thought that was one of the things that made the character interesting and unique. Opened up a lot of creativity to fit as many as you could in combos. The nerf is the damage in incredible though. Like I would have understood it being nerfed some but now vomit loops are pointless.
How is there not still a ton of room for creativity though? Vomit loops were cool but they were broke. They obviously don't want people doing them so it is what it is. He still has really good damage ending in a plus restand for more pressure. I think he'll be fine in the long run.
I still haven't stopped seeing new, more optimized combo this deep into the game involving his vomit and now everything will just be so basic, linear, and boring.
So how exactly is it linear with replacing the vomit combos with regular combos only using one vomit and the restand? With all of his strings and all the ways you can use blood ball to combo I don't think linear would really describe his corner game. Off the restand alone you have like 10 different options.
Its not optimal at all using his trait to extend combos more than once since the follow up damage you can get isn't really there anymore and the added loss of dex star time makes it even less of an attractive option. I understand you want to be super duper positive about everything all the time because you think it makes you appear more objective, but sometimes its okay to recognize when something is bad.
I never said vomit combos weren't bad, they're useless like you said.
He's only +11 he doesnt get a free 50/50 or cross up unless you mb the vomit or do a f12 mix. This scaling is gonna hurt the most in MU's vs characters with small hitboxes aka the females except wonderwoman and a few male character because you can't restand them and vomit so you get none of those options for free. You have to go damage which is still okay but makes his corner game much less scary for small hitbox characters since your options are pretty limited.
F13/F1 puddle is a 50/50. I've not found a single character that you can't do a restand on, you just have to change up the combos when necessary. I'll probably be posting in the combo thread to that effect pretty soon. And if nothing else you can do b23 ball, although your pressure can be interrupted at that point. His corner damage is also just as good as most characters in the game.
I played a ton of matches with him last night and push block on Atrocitus trait is legit brutal. Alot of his added pressure is gone and f4 as well as 4 kills his trait. It's kinda rough especially since his trait takes longer to recover too.
