Are they patching Injustice too quickly?

[DGOD PSYCHO]

What do you guys think? I feel that they are.. New tech is possibly found every day, and then all of a sudden a balance change hits. Now, lets be serious here. In terms of a balanced fighter, Tekken Tag 2, SFXT, and SFIV are much more balanced. None the less they took time with their patches.

I feel like its the same mistake as Mortal Kombat. Half the time NRS is making the wrong patches, and then in the end, if they keep making patches, we just might have another MK9. Who's going to be the next Kabal? or Cyrax? Or even Kenshi?

I just feel like right now, yes Injustice is really fun, and it has tons of potential to be the best, but I think they need to delay the patches for a good 4-6 months and wait... we need to see what happens with the tech and stuff. Right now its obvious that the game is not balanced, how ever no one knows exactly what should be changed, so why change anything at all? Who knows, tech might push characters up tiers.

NRS needs to learn from other successful tourney fighters. Capcom, umvc3, sfxt tekken tag.... They all have footsies. most having anti airs.. and you have to know how to move/spacing.. Where are these fundamentals in injustice?

 

[Skitzo]

Nrs doesn't care lawl

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

Nrs doesn't care lawl

Shame. I may go back to SFXT.

 

[Jimmypotato]

arent you the dude who keeps complaining about flash saying he needs buffs?

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

arent you the dude who keeps complaining about flash saying he needs buffs?

At first I was. Not any more. All i really think he should get is fixes. like with his mids as should every character but it doesn't matter, stay on topic. Even if I said that, nrs should wait on that before patching it.

 

[Doombawkz]

Honestly, and I mean in my opinion, most of the changes are relatively small and seem more like tweaks to fit an original plan than big changes.

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

Honestly, and I mean in my opinion, most of the changes are relatively small and seem more like tweaks to fit an original plan than big changes.

Scorpion nerfs were huge, i wouldn't say that entirely.
As was some things towards harley quinns nerfs.

 

[Rampage254]

NRS patches more than hookers getting into a different car every night.

 

[Hellbringer]

Shame. I may go back to SFXT.

 

[Relaxedstate]

The changes have been relatively small except for the wake up buff and DS nerf... Nothing that is stoping people from coming up with new tech. Plus there is nothing wrong with frequent minor patches. Look at MOBAs. It is worth being concerned about to a degree...but most of the "too many patch tears" are unwarranted. You'll know when a big balance change happens, because it will eventually.

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

The changes have been relatively small except for the wake up buff and DS nerf... Nothing that is stoping people from coming up with new tech. Plus there is nothing wrong with frequent minor patches. Look at MOBAs. It is worth being concerned about to a degree...but most of the "too many patch tears" are unwarranted. You'll know when a big balance change happens, because it will eventually.

The littlest things sometimes have the biggest effects.

 

[redeyes]

Someones salty flash lost his OTG in a patch

 

[Relaxedstate]

The littlest things sometimes have the biggest effects.

Yes. A little change seems to warrant a big overreaction here.

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

Yes. A little change seems to warrant a big overreaction here.

Or when someones good like Scorpion, they overreact and cry. then a few days later, they notice oh okay its not so bad, then the nerf hammer came.
I feel the same may happen to zod.

 

[Rathalos]

Scorpion nerfs were huge, i wouldn't say that entirely.
As was some things towards harley quinns nerfs.

Scorpion was never nerfed, he was just accidentally released too early.
If he was released on time, we would have never even known that the teleport ever hit mid, or his flash kick was safe.

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

Scorpion was never nerfed, he was just accidentally released too early.
If he was released on time, we would have never even known that the teleport ever hit mid, or his flash kick was safe.

Really? i thought it was on purpose for people who had the season pass? you sure?

 

[Zoidberg747]

NRS needs to learn from other successful tourney fighters. Capcom, umvc3, sfxt tekken tag.... They all have footsies. most having anti airs.. and you have to know how to move/spacing.. Where are these fundamentals in injustice?

ad this right here is how we know you are just a scrub.

But before I go into that, let me say no they are not patching too fast. All they have done so far is fix unintended issues(like Doomsday splash hitbox), with a few buffs and nerfs mixed in. The main things that have significantly changed the game are buffs to the mid tier or lower tier. Catwoman, Flash, Sinestro, Ares, etc. have become more viable because of receiving buffs. On the other side certain characters like Deathstroke and Superman have been nerfed but here is the thing, they are still viable. If you dont believe they are still viable, then you suck with them simple as that. Honestly I wouldnt care if they waited o more patches, but if they did one tomorrow I would go into the lab and figure it out like all top playershould do.

Now about the last paragraph. I am going to guess your first FG was Mk9. And with this I can tell you that you generally have no knowledge of FGs whatsoever. The first sign is saying no footsies in Injustice. Read this sentence and read it well. I mean it, read it:
There is footsies in EVERY SINGLE FG EVER
IIt is not possible to have a game without footsies. Footsies is using safe attacks to control your opponent and guessing their next move. This can happen in fucking Shaq Fu, this "no footsies" thing makes you(and the MKC) look like a bunch of idiots who have no idea what they are talking about.

Secondly spacing is KEY to win in this game. With interactables spacing is probably one of the most important aspects of this game(Cept on Metropolis Rooftop, that stage is dumb). If I am playing you and I land a launcher, I have to change up my combo If I want to land right next to the interactable for extra unscalable damage. I have to corner my opponent but also be far enough that I can dodge the corner interactable(Or Armor through it for full combo). People act as if interactables are so broken but that is because they refuse to learn them. If someone tries to use the Wayne Manor car on me I am going to dash right under them and punish them for a full combo. If they EVER whiff one on me I will punish for a full combo.This is why Spacing is so key.

Your last sentence is literally the stupidest statement I have ever seen written on this site. Let me give you a definition.
Fundamentals are THE BASIC COMPONENTS FOUND IN EVERY SINGLE FG. Stuff like poking, whiff punishing, spacing, footsies, it is all there. You may not be able to do it or see it because you don't know what the damn term means, but it is there and will be there in any FG.

TLR

This community is scrubby as hell and needs to seriously level up their FG Knowledge

 

[Hellbringer]

Or when someones good like Scorpion, they overreact and cry. then a few days later, they notice oh okay its not so bad, then the nerf hammer came.
I feel the same may happen to zod.

It was a fix because scorpion wasnt supposed to be like that

 

[Rathalos]

Really? i thought it was on purpose for people who had the season pass? you sure?

Yes, though they would never admit to it because it makes them and MS look bad.

Paulo kind of admitted to it on the forums though.

 

[Hellbringer]

This community is scrubby as hell and needs to seriously level up their FG Knowledge

please stop generalising scrubs as the whole community...

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Right now its obvious that the game is not balanced, how ever no one knows exactly what should be changed, so why change anything at all?

This doesn't make any sense.
How can you on 1 hand call the game unbalanced, and yet at the same time say you don't understand why it's unbalanced?

 

[DGOD PSYCHO]

This doesn't make any sense.
How can you on 1 hand call the game unbalanced, and yet at the same time say you don't understand why it's unbalanced?

Even if the games unbalanced, one little change could tamper with other match up's in result causing another dis balance. Which is why no one can exactly say what to change in the game. It's too early.

 

[annoyedw/ppl]

What do you guys think? I feel that they are.. New tech is possibly found every day, and then all of a sudden a balance change hits. Now, lets be serious here. In terms of a balanced fighter, Tekken Tag 2, SFXT, and SFIV are much more balanced. None the less they took time with their patches.

I feel like its the same mistake as Mortal Kombat. Half the time NRS is making the wrong patches, and then in the end, if they keep making patches, we just might have another MK9. Who's going to be the next Kabal? or Cyrax? Or even Kenshi?

I just feel like right now, yes Injustice is really fun, and it has tons of potential to be the best, but I think they need to delay the patches for a good 4-6 months and wait... we need to see what happens with the tech and stuff. Right now its obvious that the game is not balanced, how ever no one knows exactly what should be changed, so why change anything at all? Who knows, tech might push characters up tiers.

NRS needs to learn from other successful tourney fighters. Capcom, umvc3, sfxt tekken tag.... They all have footsies. most having anti airs.. and you have to know how to move/spacing.. Where are these fundamentals in injustice?

SF x T was more balanced when it came out then Injustice? you sure about that? pretty shady stuff was happening when that game came out lol. And what big changes have been made? nothing. everything has been to fix problems they didnt intend for the game to have. i think we are having selective memory here because capcom always has early patches that fixes things too

maybe the low shots frame data change is the ONLY thing that has forced a character to change their gameplan that wasn't a necessary change. scorpion was going to be changed cuz he wasnt supposed to be released that way. ares and flash reset tech, you cant really say oh yea leave that shit in. wakeups being fixed to how they were INTENDED, cant complain about that either. possible frost "nerfs" dont make her any different or less of a threat

also you say dont change things for 6 months, and then go on about how it needs better footsies and anti air...i mean which is it? i dont get how people can say this game doesnt require movement and spacing? seems pretty important to me, just cuz you dont sit there and dance back and forth outside of poke range doesnt mean it isnt there

 

[A F0xy Grampa]

Even if the games unbalanced, one little change could tamper with other match up's in result causing another dis balance. Which is why no one can exactly say what to change in the game.

That didnt answer my question.
On top of that, none of the patches so far, besides low gunshot nerf & flash OTG, have actually changed the way the game is played.

 

[redeyes]

Even if the games unbalanced, one little change could tamper with other match up's in result causing another dis balance. Which is why no one can exactly say what to change in the game. It's too early.

such as your OTG

the real reason behind the thread.

on topic...


all these patches are minor fixes so far.

only like 2 real "nerfs" happened
DS who is still amazing you just cant be brain dead.
DD dickbox i mean hit box being set stright and DD is still good too.