General/Other - Kano After the patch/hotfix: Here's my opinion on Kano

[SaltShaker]

And still has its uses in corner but depends on your life obviously but really you can do close to sane damage using exdb1 which is kinda lame

Stick to EX DB1 combos imo. And as far as +Frames, stick to EX Knives over the "buff".

If you're gonna spend a bar on block on a hit confirmable string, then go +9 on block with EX Knives into pressure for more adv on most strings and no life lost.

If you're going to combo, you can do about 3% less damage with EX DB1 combos and pressure their WU, rather than lose 6% health and give up a free WU or lose 10%-15% health pressuring.

I would only do EX Buff pressure with a significant life lead or knowing a combo and a next hit will end the match. The damage midscreen just isn't high enough anymore. Definitely doesn't feel like an "all purpose go to BnB". The armor purposes seem to have dimished as well since now you not only would absorb the damage, but get the health drain after. I'll probably just try to make good reads and block/punish rather than armor counter now.

 

[HuttonMD]

Stick to EX DB1 combos imo. And as far as +Frames, stick to EX Knives over the "buff".

If you're gonna spend a bar on block on a hit confirmable string, then go +9 on block with EX Knives into pressure for more adv on most strings and no life lost.

If you're going to combo, you can do about 3% less damage with EX DB1 combos and pressure their WU, rather than lose 6% health and give up a free WU or lose 10%-15% health pressuring.

I would only do EX Buff pressure with a significant life lead or knowing a combo and a next hit will end the match. The damage midscreen just isn't high enough anymore. Definitely doesn't feel like an "all purpose go to BnB". The armor purposes seem to have dimished as well since now you not only would absorb the damage, but get the health drain after. I'll probably just try to make good reads and block/punish rather than armor counter now.

Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9

 

[HuttonMD]

Also I do 112 exball cancel f212 f212 112 ball which does around same are they pretty optimal or no?

 

[ando1184]

Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9

112, ex db1, f212, run cancel, 112 bf3 I think does 40%

Edit: well "did" 40%, idk since the patch

 

[SaltShaker]

Yea having both the damage Nerf and DOT really did hurt the exbuffs uses.

What is the optimal go to exdb1 combo?
I usually do 112 exdb1 njp 112 ball I think its 36% or 35% I haven't got the combos with the regular slice in middle of combo down yet so Im not comfortable using then in matches.

And if you do the whole b121 string into exknives your +9 as well right?

I think it funny how ppl acted like we never had +frames for our 50/50 and just because one string is as plus as mb hell sparks it was to much when exknives always left us +9

-If you're finding the other combos a little too tough at the moment, until you get them down stick to the ones that you can do consistently in matches and keep practicing the others. For that combo, I would suggest doing RC B121 Kano Ball after the NJP. It's still easy on the execution and gives you a percent or two more damage with better wall carry.

-Yup. Always +9 after EX Knives. A B3 into combo crushes anything if they push buttons unless the armor or whatever. Then once they're conditioned to block you can use instant run cancels into 50/50's or grabs.

-Yea it's hilarious. Most people had no idea about the character and it showed when the patch hit. Now they're all gone as if nothing ever happened lol.

 

[HuttonMD]

112, ex db1, f212, run cancel, 112 bf3 I think does 40%

Nice I'll have to try that when I get home thanks

 

[SaltShaker]

112, ex db1, f212, run cancel, 112 bf3 I think does 40%

Yea this is what I use. It's the most consistent BnB without having to worry about drops to me.

 

[HuttonMD]

I have the rc down pretty well so I'll start trying the b121 instead of rc 112

 

[Derptile]

I think it would be better to continue this in the General discussion , Cutthroat discussion, or Combo thread.

@HuttonMD

 

[JustObserver]

112, ex db1, f212, run cancel, 112 bf3 I think does 40%

Edit: well "did" 40%, idk since the patch

It was 37% pre patch.

 

[HuttonMD]

I think it would be better to continue this in the General discussion , Cutthroat discussion, or Combo thread.

@HuttonMD

Yea sorry forgot which thread I was in lol

 

[ando1184]

Nice I'll have to try that when I get home thanks

Nevermind just tested it, it's 37%

 

[ando1184]

It was 37% pre patch.

Yeh just tested it, sorry I was thinking of another combo or something?

 

[ando1184]

I find it funny that after the hotfix/patch his movelist states that the ex buff (dd3+R2): "Gains a bigger damage buff without losing health" lol classic nrs

 

[VoyagersRevenge]

I find it funny that after the hotfix/patch his movelist states that the ex buff (dd3+R2): "Gains a bigger damage buff without losing health" lol classic nrs

Lets hope someone messed up and that damage loss disappears for using a bar. It makes no sense to use a bar for a few % more damage and health loss.

 

[ando1184]

Lets hope someone messed up and that damage loss disappears for using a bar. It makes no sense to use a bar for a few % more damage and health loss.

That's the thing though, the hotfix made it to where there is no small percent increase. The ex buff deals the exact same amount of damage as the regular buff now It just activates faster, that's all.

 

[VoyagersRevenge]

That's the thing though, the hotfix made it to where there is no small percent increase. The ex buff deals the exact same amount of damage as the regular buff now It just activates faster, that's all.

Someone needs to justify the hotfix nerf! Who do we contact about this? This is blasphemy lol. Seriously who can we contact?

 

[HuttonMD]

Someone needs to justify the hotfix nerf! Who do we contact about this? This is blasphemy lol. Seriously who can we contact?

Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.

 

[ando1184]

Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.

But is there anyone in our community that has contact with someone from NRS or Paulo or whoever via twitter, FB, email, something? I feel like tym is all we have in our community otherwise I wouldn't have expected such a change as this woulda happened in the first place.

 

[FlappyDaniel]

Tyler is our community representative

 

[Doombawkz]

Kano mains' reaction to the changes

 

[VoyagersRevenge]

Lol if only it would make a difference. Maybe after a little bit once things die down they will change it back to no DOT.
Its definitely overkill and if its as easy as a hotfix to change it then it definitely could happen.

Well, I think the issue that most of the community that plays Cutthroat will have is the hotfix nerf not making any sense lol. They couuld have ATLEAST given us no health loss for the regular buff which doesn't require a bar of meter. This hotfix must and I am almost 100% sure, must be temporary and something that they just slapped on until they can fix the problem properly.

 

[HuttonMD]

Kano mains' reaction to the changes

LMAO! So true I definitely had that reaction after reading about the second nerf

 

[VoyagersRevenge]

Kano mains' reaction to the changes

That was me on the day of the patch until midnight lmfaooooooooooo. Check the forums and you'll probably see previous comments in all caps repping #KNIVEBOYZ #WEMADEIT .....pfft, my ayyse. We took a few steps back. We got back handed shinnok style

 

[HuttonMD]

Well, I think the issue that most of the community that plays Cutthroat will have is the hotfix nerf not making any sense lol. They couuld have ATLEAST given us no health loss for the regular buff which doesn't require a bar of meter. This hotfix must and I am almost 100% sure, must be temporary and something that they just slapped on until they can fix the problem properly.

Yea I just Dont understand why they did both damage Nerf and DOT and your right it could be a place holder to see how it plays out and they figure out what they wanna do to it