Tech Advantage off of Standing 1, air gotcha.

[Playpal]

Hit cancel advantage of s1 - duration of air gotcha grab = +23.

 

[Axel_Redd]

1~AAGG (wiff) is +23??!!

 

[LEGEND]

You can do the same with standing 1 gotcha grab but its impossible to land in a real fight but it gives you a free x-ray so i use the one tyrant uses sometimes.

WTF are you talking about?
Free Xray?
Same thing with 1-Gotcha. . . how? and why is impossible to land in a real fight?
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my guess is you have no idea whats going on

 

[Big Pampering]

But this is on hit, what if the standing 1 gets blocked?

 

[MK_Salivial]

Did you record this with a potato?

 

[LEGEND]

But this is on hit, what if the standing 1 gets blocked?

-23 lol

Thats why im thinking option selects

 

[Krayzie]

But this is on hit, what if the standing 1 gets blocked?

Then you do another standing 1. Its 8 frames... lol

1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1...

DUCK!

 

[Big Pampering]

-23 lol

Thats why im thinking option selects

-23? theres your problem already

Then you do another standing 1. Its 8 frames... lol

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it doesnt hit mid, so jax is going to eat an uppercut if he tries anything funny, same thing with lao standing 7.

 

[Krayzie]

-23? theres your problem already



it doesnt hit mid, so jax is going to eat an uppercut if he tries anything funny, same thing with lao standing 7.

Damn, not even my ninja edit could stop you!

 

[LEGEND]

Then you do another standing 1. Its 8 frames... lol

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standing 1 only hits duck blocking if I jail you into it with a Jip or + frame off F3, F41 or F4-EW on hit

i know you know this, stop being emo sir

 

[Krayzie]

standing 1 only hits duck blocking if I jail you into it with a Jip or + frame off F3, F41 or F4-EW on hit

i know you know this, stop being emo sir

You posted way too late, I don't give you the same credit.

 

[Under_The_Mayo]

So the airgrab creates a longer stun? Can`t you just standing 1 jab without the airgrab and then follow up with whatever you want anyway? What exactly is the theory behind this? I`m curious.

 

[MashPotatoTower]

What about other strings? Can I get more pressure from hiring any other string or attack?

 

[LEGEND]

So the airgrab creates a longer stun? Can`t you just standing 1 jab without the airgrab and then follow up with whatever you want anyway? What exactly is the theory behind this? I`m curious.

1 on hit and block is neutral
1-AGG on hit is +23 but -23 (iirc) on block

Trying to think of ways you can option select the 1DB1

 

[Big Pampering]

So the airgrab creates a longer stun? Can`t you just standing 1 jab without the airgrab and then follow up with whatever you want anyway? What exactly is the theory behind this? I`m curious.

If I dont misunderstand.

most normals are + on hit, by canceling a move with a special youre taking away the recovery of the normal you hit the oponent with.

for example if a move would be +10 on hit, you wont actually be +10 if the move you used has 5 frames of recovery, making it +5 in reality. by canceling that move you will actually get the +10 or almost the +10 at least.

 

[kronspik]

1 normally has a duration of 22 frames and +0 on hit. Why would cancelling it into something make it +23 on hit? That's a mindfuck.

 

[LEGEND]

most normals are + on hit

most normals are actually 0 on hit, its weird

 

[kronspik]

I guess the reason behind this is because cancelling a normal changes its hitstun (and maybe blockstun) properties sometimes. It's just how the game works?

 

[LEGEND]

this is similar to Reptile's 2-Invisy, for those who are still confused

 

[Krayzie]

most normals are actually 0 on hit, its weird

All of my jabs should be + on hit. Fully armored and everything too.

 

[Big Pampering]

most normals are actually 0 on hit, its weird

ah I see, I dont know about any other characters but most of laos normals on hit are on +, sad he cant make use of this because he doesnt have a fast enough mid hitting string.

 

[Ryheem]

WTF are you talking about?
Free Xray?
Same thing with 1-Gotcha. . . how? and why is impossible to land in a real fight?
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my guess is you have no idea whats going on

WTF i think you dont know what im talking about and im not talking about. Do you really think you can space a standing 1 into gotcha grab. Not the anti air one. The one on the ground ok. My guess is i think you dont know what im talking about.

 

[PPJ]

a perfectly spaced 1~gotcha grab on hit in which the grab whiffs will grant you a free xray

 

[Beginner0k_TwM]

RDK|Tyrant Good stuff, I use this option as a punishment, for example reptile elbow dash: 1~d,b+1 => b+1,2,4 in block chip damage. misses all the characters in the block and without block