Sis, it's pretty easy to follow. Lame jokes about scrubs. Then into what I like about the game. Then a kinda meandering thing about other things I like.
I don't understand what's really wrong with that. You can get the gist of any character in any game after 10 minutes. Doesn't mean you're actually good with them. That you know what to do in most situations and if you don't, you can make a really good educated guess.
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At launch I played with variation 1 of Kung Lao in practice. It was the default variations, I assumed these would be the tournament ones. If they're gonna add default variations on character select, surely they mas as well make it the tournament ones? Nope spent a while learning the great kung Lao variation, went in to ranked and no where to be seen
I fundamentally disagree with this suggestion that MK11 is more "neutral based" than either I2 or even than MKX in some ways.
Yes you said it Mkx is a mess, and I haven't played IJ2 so I can't speak on it. But Mk11 is definitely a neutral based game. Nobody in this game is broken it's balanced, we all have to play neutral to win the game. You can say grabs are overpowered but if I duck that shit you're getting full Kb combos from the entire kast and 50% from Shao so go ahead. Liu has great stagger pressure, Centrions the best zoner but they are not broken, There are things good players do to beat these play styles but you have to put the time and effort in. Worst-case scenario you have to pick up a character just to cover the bad Match-Ups, if you watch tournaments you can see that every character wins you just have to put the work in and figure it out. Its not a coin flip like Mkx its a Real Competitive Fighting Game. Ill take staggers and grabs over 50/50s anyday
That last bit's kinda my point though, how is a meta centered around staggers and strike/throw necessarily more satisfying than OH/low? It's still guesswork, still sort of a "coinflip" but the difference now is just the nature of the consequence for guessing wrong. No one has to be "broken" to be fundamentally better at this meta, some characters just are better. I think MK11's a more balanced game than MKX specifically, for better or for worse, but that doesn't matter if the characters are basically all the same archetype and some are still clearly better. I think it's definitely fair to make the case that focusing on "balance" in the sense of "give all characters tools to be kinda good at every single playstyle but some characters are slightly better overall" isn't a smart idea. I don't think a rushdown champion like Liu Kang should pretty much ever be able to zone out some characters out when he gets a life lead. I don't think that Cetrion should, in addition to being a premier zoner and having some of the strongest projectiles in the game, have incredibly powerful staggers up close. Why not just give these characters one or the other and develop them around that strength, with distinct weaknesses but perhaps a more expansive toolset for their strengths so that you can adapt to those who would take advantage of such weaknesses?
There's nothing particularly special about poke into throw. And you can definitely cancel into specials from pokes, although they don't combo. People use this all the time to catch habit-mashing.
Mortal Kombat 11 was rushed to market and the game is awful. Whiffing issues happen constantly in that piece of donkey shit and breaks the game to the point of making it unplayable.
If you like freestyling with combos and really dirty set ups, Killer Instinct.
I prefer 3d fighting games, so I was already playing Tekken 7. There is no other choice since Dead or Alive 6 is officially dead and Soul Calibur 6 has one of the worst netcode ever and horrible matchmaking.
On the game being neutral based, cause I feel like you're talking about balance of the meta and the idea of the game being more neutral based than MKX. MK11 is more neutral based partly because those mixups in MKX led to 30% damage combos both ways and the setplay and momentum was greater. Like you said, the reward for the mixups is much different. You can tech throws and counter the throw for a lot of damage which wasn't always true about mixups in MKX. You just get more chances to go back to neutral in MK11 than you do in MKX. And then MKX had the run button which arguably didn't stop it from being neutral based, but it definitely didn't encourage footsies like the movement in MK11 does. Also, more importantly than 50/50s IMO for neutral play, there were many more instances of strong advancing or long range normals, some that led into that same damage and momentum.
by doing it a second time knowing it whiffs?
I would argue that the setplay and momentum aren't that different from MKX, just for different reasons. With the introduction of throw loops and throw KB's and as you mention the KB counters for throws like d2's, the consequences in terms of taking big damage and returning to a defensive guess are just as prevalent in MK11, and truly reverting to neutral doesn't happen as often as we tend to think. I would also suggest that throw loops, the lack of real neutral-reset combo breakers, the relative weakness of backdashing, the relative weakness of zoning, and the presence of wavedashing as I see it are all effectively stand-ins for things like the run button and 50/50 resets and other things that detract from neutral. You no longer have to play spacing or other kinds of neutral beyond guessing either on a throw tech or a stagger or a breakaway or some other typically binary set of possibilities. The consequences are the same: high damage, albeit sometimes only once if a KB is the only launcher, and a situation where you must either expend resources to breakaway/wakeup or otherwise eat another stagger mixup. That the damage taken for a wrong guess is sometimes lesser than MKX's punishment is immaterial when you're still just repeatedly guessing until you guess more correctly than your opponent and then you can play neutral, which is generally the situation in both games. There is setplay and quick closing movement just like MKX, and while they're not as powerful as in MKX neither are the defensive tools that counter them, so it balances out to pretty much the same imo, without the speed and intensity but with the same amount of pressure and control.
I'm pretty bummed about DOA. I was really digging into it pretty hard for the first time right before MK11 dropped. The population just was never there, and it just seem to be spiraling down the drain right from the start.
DOA6 got what it deserved for the bad launch and consumer hostile practices. It’s a solid game mechanically, but the game is one giant microtransaction machine. The costume parts system is still slow and the season passes are ridiculously overpriced... for shit that was mostly reused DOA5LR assets.
But twice now you have mistakenly claimed that a key difference between X and 11 is the fact that 11 features a throw mechanic where teching is in and of itself a 50/50. MKX had the exact same mechanic; press 1 or 3 to break a back throw attempt, and press 2 or 4 to break a front throw.
It just happens randomly dude, doesn't matter who the opponent is. I went into the lab and tried to replicate it against Jax, couldn't do it.