A UFGT Warning: MUST READ FOR ALL ATTENDING

[pumpkincream]

In fairness, the EC have been pretty harsh re: UFGT in the past, especially the OBS propaganda. Just look at who "likes" every post bashing UFGT and you'll know what I mean.

heres a big east coast tournament being bashed to bits that has been known for one of the first welcoming arms for NRS games

http://testyourmight.com/threads/community-concerns-regarding-nec-13.25820/

 

[CrimsonShadow]

Injustice had 10 hours of stream time at UFGT9. We streamed the C block, the D block, the Injustice Auction, The top 16, and the Top 8. Stop. http://ufgtus.wordpress.com/schedule/archive/

(SF4 had 12 hours, UMvC3 had 14 hours, and Divekick had 2.5 hours of stream time at UFGT9 for comparison. Injustice had 3rd most by a large margin) Please stop lying to everyone about this, it doesn't help anyone.

You'll note that I said "pools". I was specifically comparing the pools, not the auction or Top 8.

If you add up the hours streamed for pools alone (not special events, Top16/8/etc.) you'll see that the disparity was clear -- it's not a lie.

 

[haketh]

You'll note that I said "pools". I was specifically comparing the pools, not the auction or Top 8.

If you add up the hours streamed for pools alone (not special events, Top16/8/etc.) you'll see that the disparity was clear -- it's not a lie.

Are you really being this dumb? We missed some pools but a large majority of it was streamed last year.

 

[Keits]

You'll note that I said "pools". I was specifically comparing the pools, not the auction or Top 8.

If you add up the hours streamed for pools alone (not special events, Top16/8/etc.) you'll see that the disparity was clear -- it's not a lie.

If you add up the hours for just pools, then, you'll see SF4 had 3 pool blocks streamed, UMvC3 had 3, and Injustice had 2. There is literally no pleasing some of you short of making a dedicated injustice only event. We'll continue doing our best for the rest of you, though. I won't let the sour few ruin it for you.

 

[haketh]

Seriosuly what the fuck has to be done to please some of you? You guys act like the NRS scene has really suffered and struggled since MK( came out and you guys have had it easy stree compared to damn near every other Non Capcom game out there. Every other game has really had to struggle to get into most anything for years but MK9 and IGAU automatically got in and have gotten better treatment for the most part than any other game. Fuck, short of only streaming IGAU and nothing IGAU for three days seems to be the only way some of you idiots are gonna be happy.

 

[OG Mannimal]

If you add up the hours for just pools, then, you'll see SF4 had 3 pool blocks streamed, UMvC3 had 3, and Injustice had 2. There is literally no pleasing some of you short of making a dedicated injustice only event. We'll continue doing our best for the rest of you, though. I won't let the sour few ruin it for you.

Thanks. I'm personally very excited for UFGT, it'll be my first tournament

 

[Indecisive]

Seriosuly what the fuck has to be done to please some of you? You guys act like the NRS scene has really suffered and struggled since MK( came out and you guys have had it easy stree compared to damn near every other Non Capcom game out there. Every other game has really had to struggle to get into most anything for years but MK9 and IGAU automatically got in and have gotten better treatment for the most part than any other game. Fuck, short of only streaming IGAU and nothing IGAU for three days seems to be the only way some of you idiots are gonna be happy.

Fun Fact. People don't like it when they get insulted on this site. But its okay if they do the insulting hehe. But honestly i fine with any amount of Injustice Being streamed. Even if its not much. I would be fine with just top 16 and top 8 being streamed. But thats just me. And if i want to be a bit greedy give me top 32.

 

[Indecisive]

Thanks. I'm personally very excited for UFGT, it'll be my first tournament

Have fun. Play Casuals. Talk to people. Do your best. Go to Tony's. Go to actual food places and not just fast food for dinner. Trust me on this. And don't be upset if you don't do as well as you thought you would do. Best of luck. ^_^.

 

[Dirtylova]

If you add up the hours for just pools, then, you'll see SF4 had 3 pool blocks streamed, UMvC3 had 3, and Injustice had 2. There is literally no pleasing some of you short of making a dedicated injustice only event. We'll continue doing our best for the rest of you, though. I won't let the sour few ruin it for you.

I personally appreciate what youve done for the nrs community. thanks buddy. Ignore crimsonshadow, he likes to argue just for the sake of arguing.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

If you add up the hours for just pools, then, you'll see SF4 had 3 pool blocks streamed, UMvC3 had 3, and Injustice had 2. There is literally no pleasing some of you short of making a dedicated injustice only event. We'll continue doing our best for the rest of you, though. I won't let the sour few ruin it for you.

I don't think anyone was asking for an injustice-only event. The 3 blocks of Marvel and AE streamed covered 75% of their scheduled tourney pool time. Then top 32 was streamed after that.

The 2 blocks of Injustice was 25% of our scheduled tourney pool time (we missed the Saturday pools completely). The top 32->16 wasn't streamed.

You mistake passion for being "sour". The situation for us was that it was the first year of our game, we were posting great numbers at every event, and there were a ton of exciting matches with up-and-coming players at each tournament. As such, we were excited to see select matches from as much of the pool play as we could. Maybe not from 100%, but the 25% number combined with lack of Top 32 was a bit of a punch in the gut.

On Saturday during pools, all the fanbase had was Twitter, where hype match after upset after upset was reported for the entire day ("wish you guys could have seen this -- it was unbelievable").

That's why, as I said, I'm happy that we'll get to see more of the pools this year.

Most of the other majors have moved to a format where we get to see matches from the majority or all of the pools by now, and I think this should eventually become a community-wide standard moving forward. But the UFGT10 schedule seems to be divided fairly, and that's all you can ask for.

 

[Keits]

25% vs 75% isn't accurate if you actually do the math the right way. Injustice was running 2 pools at once, while SF4 and Marvel were running 4 at once. If you stream 2 hours while 2 pools are running, you see a lot more of the matches from those pools than if you stream 2 hours while 4 pools are running.

Accurately, if a pool has ~30 matches in it, and we are able to stream 12 matches in a 2 hour block, then you actually saw 5% of Injustice pools, 7.5% of SF4 pools, 7.5% of UMvC3 pools, and 0% of Divekick pools.

I see, as other have said, that you like to argue for the sake of it, but again you are using math to lie. You are using numbers that seem accurate at first glance to paint a negative picture, and I not going to sit here and let you do it. We went above and beyond for Injustice last year, especially based on super low early/normal registration numbers. When the game came out and registration picked up, we adjusted and streamed as much Injustice as we could.

Our only actual mistake last year was Curly letting the TTT2 guys play 3/5 for their entire top 8, which pushed MK9 top 8 back an hour, which lead to only 8 hours of sleep/off time before Injustice top 8.

Just stop.

 

[CrimsonShadow]

25% vs 75% isn't accurate if you actually do the math the right way. Injustice was running 2 pools at once, while SF4 and Marvel were running 4 at once. If you stream 2 hours while 2 pools are running, you see a lot more of the matches from those pools than if you stream 2 hours while 4 pools are running.

Accurately, if a pool has ~30 matches in it, and we are able to stream 12 matches in a 2 hour block, then you actually saw 5% of Injustice pools, 7.5% of SF4 pools, 7.5% of UMvC3 pools, and 0% of Divekick pools.

I hear what you're saying, but it's not what I'm saying at all. Most of the hype for pools isn't about seeing every single random match. But obviously for each pool there's a smaller % of matches that you do want to see, given the people that are playing them.

If given a choice between seeing 100% of the matches in one pool and none of another vs. dividing the time between them, I think most people would vie for being able to see some key matches from both. It's not so much the total amount of time, as the quality of what you get to see.

I am neither attacking you nor making untrue statements -- just pointing out that the only reason why we wanted to see key matches from more of the pools is actually a posititve thing: it was that our game had a ton of momentum, was backing up the hype via registration numbers, and we were hugely excited to see and support it.

So again, that's why I'm happy that more of the pools are covered this year.

 

[Zoidberg747]

25% vs 75% isn't accurate if you actually do the math the right way. Injustice was running 2 pools at once, while SF4 and Marvel were running 4 at once. If you stream 2 hours while 2 pools are running, you see a lot more of the matches from those pools than if you stream 2 hours while 4 pools are running.

Accurately, if a pool has ~30 matches in it, and we are able to stream 12 matches in a 2 hour block, then you actually saw 5% of Injustice pools, 7.5% of SF4 pools, 7.5% of UMvC3 pools, and 0% of Divekick pools.

I see, as other have said, that you like to argue for the sake of it, but again you are using math to lie. You are using numbers that seem accurate at first glance to paint a negative picture, and I not going to sit here and let you do it. We went above and beyond for Injustice last year, especially based on super low early/normal registration numbers. When the game came out and registration picked up, we adjusted and streamed as much Injustice as we could.

Our only actual mistake last year was Curly letting the TTT2 guys play 3/5 for their entire top 8, which pushed MK9 top 8 back an hour, which lead to only 8 hours of sleep/off time before Injustice top 8.

Just stop.

Just stop listening to him dude, most of us appreciate you coming here and get what happened last year.

Hope everything goes smooth for you guys, should be a great tournament.

 

[MidTierHarley]

I hear what you're saying, but it's not what I'm saying at all. Most of the hype for pools isn't about seeing every single random match. But obviously for each pool there's a smaller % of matches that you do want to see, given the people that are playing them.

If given a choice between seeing 100% of the matches in one pool and none of another vs. dividing the time between them, I think most people would vie for being able to see some key matches from both. It's not so much the total amount of time, as the quality of what you get to see.

I am neither attacking you nor making untrue statements -- just pointing out that the only reason why we wanted to see key matches from more of the pools is actually a posititve thing: it was that our game had a ton of momentum, was backing up the hype via registration numbers, and we were hugely excited to see and support it.

just stop man. pls youre making us all look dumb

 

[haketh]

Fun Fact. People don't like it when they get insulted on this site. But its okay if they do the insulting hehe. But honestly i fine with any amount of Injustice Being streamed. Even if its not much. I would be fine with just top 16 and top 8 being streamed. But thats just me. And if i want to be a bit greedy give me top 32.

Then you should have been fine because Top 16 and Top 8 were streamed.

 

[Keits]

If you want to see all the hype pool matches, come to the event and stream them into your eyeballs.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

25% vs 75% isn't accurate if you actually do the math the right way. Injustice was running 2 pools at once, while SF4 and Marvel were running 4 at once. If you stream 2 hours while 2 pools are running, you see a lot more of the matches from those pools than if you stream 2 hours while 4 pools are running.

Accurately, if a pool has ~30 matches in it, and we are able to stream 12 matches in a 2 hour block, then you actually saw 5% of Injustice pools, 7.5% of SF4 pools, 7.5% of UMvC3 pools, and 0% of Divekick pools.

I see, as other have said, that you like to argue for the sake of it, but again you are using math to lie. You are using numbers that seem accurate at first glance to paint a negative picture, and I not going to sit here and let you do it. We went above and beyond for Injustice last year, especially based on super low early/normal registration numbers. When the game came out and registration picked up, we adjusted and streamed as much Injustice as we could.

Our only actual mistake last year was Curly letting the TTT2 guys play 3/5 for their entire top 8, which pushed MK9 top 8 back an hour, which lead to only 8 hours of sleep/off time before Injustice top 8.

Just stop.

keits will NEVER admit he is wrong. ever. i talked to him on the phone one for an hour last year. I literally talked for 5 minutes. its like being in a conversation with tom brady... you cannot say anything wrong or disagree or he will go insane.
i was happy to see the schedule and my games would be played on Saturday. i had no reason to cancel friday patient schedules. i have a family, a job, responsibilities. i made plans to come to this fricken event and for the second year in a row the schedule gets screwed. two weeks before you decide to say "ohhh hey my carnival needs to be three days, not two so i will move games to friday" last year I HAD AE POOLS POSTED AND "FINALIZED' BUT I SHOW UP SAT MORNING AND SEE MY POOL IS NOW ON SATURDAY MORNING FROM SATURDAY AFTERNOON WITHOUT WARNING. of course keits made up some bullshit about why thats ok even though pools were "finalized" the day before.
bullshit. now your talking about how sleep we need? what community do you think this is? kindergarten pokemon? wtf?
you can do whatever you want... but im telling you that changing an event an entire day just weeks before is fucking stupid. period. i don't want to hear/read some big post saying how right you are and wrong i am. its wrong dude.
this is why the community needs MLG, bc this shit doesn't happen. i am penalized for planning and wanting to be responsible for work/family and miss the least amount of days possible. these types of moves only work for people without jobs/are in school/don't care about taking time off.
.. and here comes a bunch of hot air from keits in... 3... 2... 1...

no keits... you "just stop"

dive kick sucks

 

[Indecisive]

^Just for the record not East Coast.

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

and why make a two day event a three day? you get a discounted rate on the room the more rooms you sell? the last ufgt had and INCREDIBLE amount of down time btw pools. poorly ran and though out.

 

[haketh]

This needs to be said once again, THE SCHEDULE WASN'T AVAILABLE TILL THIS MONTH, IF YOU PLANNED TO COME TO UFGT MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND DIDN'T PLAN FOR POSSIBLY PLAYING ON FRIDAY YOU'RE AN IDIOT AND NOT A RESPONSIBLE ADULT!

 

[PLAYING TO WIN]

also, we are not the only community complaining about this. AE switched a bunch to friday and I know a lot of people that are now able to not go and are really pissed off.

 

[CD jr]

When did tym became so FUN!?? I think I'm enjoying this thread the most out of anybody lol!! Keep going guys!!!

 

[EGP Wonder_Chef]

Everyone going nuts about Friday start time.

SoCal are just chilling wondering how Theo is going to spend his winnings.

 

[thehadou]

and why make a two day event a three day? you get a discounted rate on the room the more rooms you sell? the last ufgt had and INCREDIBLE amount of down time btw pools. poorly ran and though out.

The majority of games have 10-15 minutes of downtime between pools to ensure each pool finishes prior to the next pool starting. The only exception to this is a pool thats straight blow ups from start to finish. The tournament has been 3 days for multiple years now, for all games, to maximize the amount of time available for attendees to enjoy the event's activities, casuals, and camaraderie. Since all players know when and where they play any downtime can be used to practice or enjoy the event.

The event itself did not switch from 2 day to 3 day, particularly for NRS titles since MK has always started on Friday this year, and you're unhappy because acknowledging the event is Friday through Sunday removes your argument. Is it unfortunate you don't want to take work off Friday? Of course it is. Is a single day unreasonable to 98% of our attendees, particularly those who understand what they agreed to? No, its not.

SF has started every year on Friday since UFGT7.

Some of us have to take work off starting Weds to get to this event and help make it happen, and won't be home till at least Tues afterwards. We've got jobs, families, and clients too. You have an understandable grumble, but the vitriol is excessive.

 

[DarthArma]