laudanum09
Darling
Things are getting...Catty 
Yeah, I'm just saying that both the ji2 approach and the mb f3 approach have been around. Breaking down which should be done when against who is a big thing that we need to start doing more moving forward, because its not something that will likely change in the coming patch. Again, we're not trying to blow you up, but it's the second time you're sticking your name on tech that's been around instead of just saying that you have new ways to use it, and then getting all defensive and what not when people say something. Manners, and what not.
im not sticking my name on the whole thing, i do stick my name when i find a new gamechanging use that unlocks a lot of doors for joker. this is the last post about this matter, i dont act like ive suddenly found a completely new setup, i find more use out of already found ones and they always tend to be very much worth it and helping in matchups.
Fair enough ya grumpy bitch
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i have 2 different scenarios specifically for bats and supes, gonna try them out tomorrow, i always spend like an hour in training mode, joker has a lot of potentialFair enough ya grumpy bitch
So I tried this out against Batman this morning real fast with some mixed results. He always wound up going the other direction and staying in the teeth, but sometimes I would get hit by the slide out of the air, and sometimes I would land on the side I originally left from (which was weird) and neither time seemed to connect with the ji2 (invincibility frames I assume). Have you experimented with that scenario much? It seems like what MIGHT be the case is some advancing and non-advancing wakeups will have enough invincibility to avoid the j2 and potentially hit us during the jump. While they still get hit by the teeth, the effectively reset to a neutral game. Batman is one where I think the mb f3 setups is better to use, but I'm picturing superman's rising grab and some others being a problem. A few weeks from now I can test all this, just wondering what your thoughts are in the mean time.
You giant douche factory.
Yeah people with a parry is going to make that corner situation a 50/50 in some matchups. They should still eat teeth and thus get the parry broken, but we'll still take some damage and it'll end the setup. It'll be the case where even when crossed up, their wakeup might either catch Joker or cause the j2 to whiff. Worst case scenario, we both get hit and Joker should be at + frames; best case everything whiffs or j2 beat them out both of which leading to teeth and a combo.
did you come up with a version that nullifies wake up input (x-up) on ji2? cause this one now includes shazam but no batgirl (teleport?).
Wakeup inputs are reversed + they go the wrong way, I need to test if a teleport can get out like that, it probably can thugh.
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the slide hitting you is you doing the setup incorrectly, I'm trying it right now.Fair enough ya grumpy bitch
So I tried this out against Batman this morning real fast with some mixed results. He always wound up going the other direction and staying in the teeth, but sometimes I would get hit by the slide out of the air, and sometimes I would land on the side I originally left from (which was weird) and neither time seemed to connect with the ji2 (invincibility frames I assume). Have you experimented with that scenario much? It seems like what MIGHT be the case is some advancing and non-advancing wakeups will have enough invincibility to avoid the j2 and potentially hit us during the jump. While they still get hit by the teeth, the effectively reset to a neutral game. Batman is one where I think the mb f3 setups is better to use, but I'm picturing superman's rising grab and some others being a problem. A few weeks from now I can test all this, just wondering what your thoughts are in the mean time.
You giant douche factory.
Ok I was just doing it too slow then I think. Haven't worked with the 213 setup as much, I generally use 32 xx teeth at the end of a longer combo, but I think it's less safe.