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right now you can trade with superman's loop with a 7f move and beat with 6 frame
right now you can trade with superman's loop with a 7f move and beat with 6 frame
My god I wish they would do this but if they did, atrocitus would probably be ass.
Atro players still have no right to complain if it happens or not because even him without trait the second he touches you you still have to guess. The character is definitely a mix machine with or without trait. If Ivy's trait goes away then so should his.
I hate atrocitus trait as much as you do lol trust me. If they did that, I wonder how they would adjust his trait? If he loses it on pushblock, recovery speed increases? I wonder what they would do? I mean he could still use it to get in with shield and blast.The chances of it happening are probably super low but hell I like entertaining the idea. Keeps my atrocitus salt level low. What you think?
I explained it very wrong sorry for that. What I meant to say is that Darkseids standing Omega Beams can hit low profiling stance special moves. For example Cheetah Blood Lunge will get hit by it during the stance despite that move even being able to duck Dr.Fate Amon Ra Blast from full screen. The same happens with Harley Quinn Tantrum Stance and Catwoman Cat Stance who both can duck Dr.Fate Amon Ra Blast from full screen while in their respective stance. A curious note is that The Flash On Your Mark stance does indeed duck the Omega Beams. This puts the three mentioned characters before The Flash at a disadvantage against Darkseid especially Cheetah and Catwoman despite their great strength up close.
I think @General M2Dave posted about it earlier in this thread. Fate's main footsie tool gets punished by some characters. Making it -7 would make it completely safe and even out his match-ups.
Obviously I wouldn't want it to be an infinite. I said remove the mashable gap meaning so you can't just mash out of 223 everytime but still leave a gap so you can backdash/armor. As of now 223 is completely useless because you can always mash out of it.
Nah if he loses his trait due to getting hit or push blocked everything else about him just remains the same. Example his trait lasts longer and comes back faster than Ivy. Atro players will live if it happens I've seen so many people guess wrong on his mixes even when he doesn't have trait.
Oh ok 223 would be fine like that, it is pretty bad right now lol. Bruh there's a reason that character has low damage, her neutral is just something else and her air dash is hard to tell where she is she can literally be in front of you but hit behind you. The thing is I'm basically saying give her a safe low starter by making b123 safe you can just hit-confirm it into b123 if they block it. Yeah you won't be able to just mindlessly mix but that's ok she has the tools to open people up well enough already. Its ok to not have everything in a character there's nothing wrong with that.
-7 glyph aint gonna help him vs brokeshot. Would be a nice buff tho. doesnt need it regardless but it would make MUs like supes and black adam 5-5 opposed to 5.5-4.5 which isnt even due to the fact of them being able to punish glyph, just the broke as hell burst damage they have. Really top tier needs to get nerfed and below that shouldnt really be buffed unless ure all the way down the tier list or just need a few changes like supergirl b123 to be less negative
Ivy players usually don't even approach you when their trait is out. Atrocitus trait going away on hit would massively hurt him. People are already starting to react to his mixes and block it pretty consistently and with how insanely unsafe it is without trait the risk reward really isn't there when it is reacted to. They just need to make his trait cooldown a good bit longer and he should be fine
They don't try to approach you because of the fact that is disappears on pushblock, thus eliminating all of her possible pressure, especially in the corner. Considering how broken his trait is in comparison, it should too.
She also doesn't approach you because she has good tools full screen and forces you to eat a ton of chip which Atrocitus doesn't have...
And? Ivy doesn't have the tools Atro has up close. Not sure what you're getting at here...
You're forgetting that Ivy's trait goes away on hit also. It's easy to get in on Ivy anyway. Yeah her zoning is good but it's not super strong like Deadshot or annoy like Dr. Fate. You can't react to Atro's mix regardless if he has trait out or not. If you block Atro's mix it's pure luck if anything since he's a 50/50 character. Batman's trait goes away on hit or push block and for the most part he's always approaching you. Darkseid's trait also goes away on hit or push block. You acting like if the nerf to Atro does happen that he will go from top 3 to bottom 5. He still has some of the best normals and some of the best footsies in the game.
Yes... because Atrocitus goes in with his trait and ivy doesn't making him getting hit a much higher risk. You can trade out of most of his best pressure sequences to start with and his 50/50s that are already starting to be reacted to are punishable in ever scenario if you're character at least has a bar which is a large portion of the match, im not understand why removing most of his pressure is gonna make him balanced. Jack up the cooldown on his cat by a lot, let him be able to pressure the shit out of you when it's out
Did you watch CEO? Atrocitus' mixes were were being blocked at a very high rate. It's only going to continue to be blocked more consistently which is why you see most atro players trending away from mixing and towards block pressure
