Useless Moves of MKXL

Guds Skyfall · Oct 15, 2016

What about Sektor's flameburner? I mean, before rockets were buffed to have less negative frames on block, you could at least use it to extend strings ... but now rockets seem better in every way except for the very tiny damage difference. Both safer and provides knockdown.

Intuitively you would think that flameburner can be used as a n aa, bith the incredibly tight active window and poor hitbox makes it extremely impractical for that.

Dankster Morgan · Oct 15, 2016

Tanno said:
Since the meta-patch, new useless move is EX Ice Klone. EX Ice Klone is only useful for longer activity, but...

Pre-patch it used to have an armor protecting you from incoming attacks. Now it no longer has this armor.

F4 xx ex clone is plus 11, which in the corner guratntees a free 50/50 if the opponent has no meter, or only one hit of armor. It activates faster too, still very useful.

YoloRoll1stHit · Oct 15, 2016

All Possessed's wake ups :DOGE

MrProfDrPepper · Oct 15, 2016

AR-15 said:
Takedas f4 is now pointless

Nope there is use, you can make your opponents wake up completely whiff in the corner with f4 so you can get a free punish

CrazyFingers · Oct 15, 2016

Leatherface EX BD4...why does this move exist?

Amplified$hotz · Oct 15, 2016

Erron Black has a couple of useless super negative strings.

Lokheit · Oct 15, 2016

Guds Skyfall said:
What about Sektor's flameburner? I mean, before rockets were buffed to have less negative frames on block, you could at least use it to extend strings ... but now rockets seem better in every way except for the very tiny damage difference. Both safer and provides knockdown.

Intuitively you would think that flameburner can be used as a n aa, bith the incredibly tight active window and poor hitbox makes it extremely impractical for that.

Flameburner is still a good ender for the corner restand (f212bb connects into burner in the corner).

KeyserSoze · Oct 15, 2016

Jason's anti-air throw (corpse slam) might be the most useless anti-air throw in the history of 2D fighters.

Guds Skyfall · Oct 15, 2016

Lokheit said:
Flameburner is still a good ender for the corner restand (f212bb connects into burner in the corner).

Yeah, it is. But that's just so situational; not enough to justify its existence. The move needs a hitbox buff (horizontally and vertically) to be usable in footsies. That's about it, I reckon.

Ger187 · Oct 16, 2016

CrazyFingers said:
Leatherface EX BD4...why does this move exist?

yeah had ever someone found a use for this move?

Angryteaspoon · Oct 16, 2016

Shaolin 2u4 .. only correct answer.

ShrekForXbox · Oct 16, 2016

myri said:
It's full combo punishable on block and -1 on hit. ON HIT. You have to meterburn to make it safe and if you meterburn and it hits it pushes the opponent to fullscreen, i.e. where killer leatherface can't do shit. There's no low from the stance so there's no 50/50. There is no use for this move. Oh yeah and the last hit of the meterburn version can be armoured for a full combo. This move is trash.

Its better used as a restand for pressure in the corner (even if it is -1 on hit.), and it does good chip. It is unsafe, put I rarely see people actually punish it properly. I do think its dumb that it's -1 on hit, since it should be at least neutral or something like +1 or +2, I still think it's more useful than something like EX Chain Sparks. Now THAT'S useless. A bar for being able to move forward a short distance after a delay, AND no armor. What a absolutely amazing and viable move!!!1!!

ShrekForXbox · Oct 16, 2016

Lt. Boxy Static said:
Tremor's F2.

A bunch of stuff Kenshi does.

Cyrax.

Tremors f2 is at least better now, I'd say it has some uses (if they keep blocking low, meaties, plus on block, good hitbox.). But pre patch, yeah that shit was T R A S H.

CrazyFingers · Oct 16, 2016

ShrekForXbox said:
Its better used as a restand for pressure in the corner (even if it is -1 on hit.), and it does good chip. It is unsafe, put I rarely see people actually punish it properly. I do think its dumb that it's -1 on hit, since it should be at least neutral or something like +1 or +2, I still think it's more useful than something like EX Chain Sparks. Now THAT'S useless. A bar for being able to move forward a short distance after a delay, AND no armor. What a absolutely amazing and viable move!!!1!!

Definitely. After restand your fast moves aren't that most slower however, it is better to just restand them with BD4 and then go for pressure. I only go for the berserker restand in meterless combos where I want a restand.

Guds Skyfall · Oct 23, 2016

AcMilan91 said:
Predator d1

Actually, I somewhat disagree. The fact that it has worse hit advantage than d3 makes it better for tick throwing.

Rozalin1780 · Oct 23, 2016

EX lift outside of the Royal Storm variation has to be the biggest waste of a bar. It does what.... 4% damage? And you can't combo off it.

AcMilan91 · Oct 23, 2016

Guds Skyfall said:
Actually, I somewhat disagree. The fact that it has worse hit advantage than d3 makes it better for tick throwing.

In new patch is useful

jmt · Oct 23, 2016

Sonyas 1,2,1,f4 has no use at all

Wigy · Oct 23, 2016

Bo rai cho's f21.

15 frames
High
Not staggerable
Not plus
No mixups
Can't use to juggle as it sends them flying
Range is okay, thats about it.

Why its a high i will never understand.

Wigy · Oct 23, 2016

AR-15 said:
Takedas f4 is now pointless

I use it in the corner if im spaced correctly. It antiairs for full combo or gets me +frames. +4 is great with takeda. Just need to make a solid read for it. It has its uses

PlaHoY · Oct 23, 2016

Kitana
Standing 4
A b S o l u t e l y
Useless

Hmmmm OK, only for swag corner combo

xInfra Deadx · Oct 23, 2016

Predator's God Smack...just why? At least let the far one keep its armor so it has an option against zoning...

Raiden's Rising Thunder...lol

Sub Zero's Air Hammer...yeah...(Cryomancer)

Erron Black's Sand Throw in Outlaw. Yeah, the EX is safe and does more damage but you'd think after losing its armor the base version would get the same safety as the EX version...but nope.

Crusty · Oct 23, 2016

Tremor's F2

Tremor's crystal summon

Predator's medit-kit.

This is off the top of my head

xInfra Deadx · Oct 23, 2016

While i'm at it, Shinnok's 2,2 string can bit my ass.

Kotal's 2,B2(F2?) as well.

Espio · Oct 23, 2016

Rozalin1780 said:
EX lift outside of the Royal Storm variation has to be the biggest waste of a bar. It does what.... 4% damage? And you can't combo off it.

This is not true at all. You 100% can combo off of it. It's not a bad way to sneak in a nice unbreakable combo either.

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