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to be fair for that 2nd part, if someone tries to Air to Air him, Scorp j1 is easily one of the best A2A moves in the game. It was beating my Bladam j1 clean every time in tournament today.


And to be fair about that 1st part, I did just pick Aquaman the next 2 games and AA him to death =/

Exactly.

Lol I am watching this match Foxy vs Reo and Foxy is like "yea bro I just knocked scorpion down let me start holding back to block when he is in no range to hit me with j3."

Funny shit and gets hit by MB Teleport when he could've dashed forward crouched and waited for scorpion to get up. If he woke up with flip kick could've punished him on block. If he got up with teleport so what you block it. But nah everyone wants to hold back to block.
 
Exactly.

Lol I am watching this match Foxy vs Reo and Foxy is like "yea bro I just knocked scorpion down let me start holding back to block when he is in no range to hit me with j3."

Funny shit and gets hit by MB Teleport when he could've dashed forward crouched and waited for scorpion to get up. If he woke up with flip kick could've punished him on block. If he got up with teleport so what you block it. But nah everyone wants to hold back to block.


Haha thats so true.

I know the Black Adam match up very well. You just aren't as good as the black adam players I play. Sorry.
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
How is he Arguably the best? Cause he beats CDJR and Chris G every week in a local tourney? lol. No one is the best player in Injustice game is too early.

Please shut up. You know you wan't him to stay the same because you think he will be your free check at EVO. What pisses me off the most is that CDJR seems to be the only tester who is concerned about balance. Everyone else sarcastically jokes about scorpion as if he is fine and will help the game. Support the fucking company that hired you and don't let the game fail.

In fact I'm going to go one step further and say why the fuck does NRS hire people like you to write guides in the first place. You can't be of much use if all you care about is your tournament life. If you were useful in the guide writing process I would be very surprised, selfish diva. colt
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
Exactly.

Lol I am watching this match Foxy vs Reo and Foxy is like "yea bro I just knocked scorpion down let me start holding back to block when he is in no range to hit me with j3."

Funny shit and gets hit by MB Teleport when he could've dashed forward crouched and waited for scorpion to get up. If he woke up with flip kick could've punished him on block. If he got up with teleport so what you block it. But nah everyone wants to hold back to block.
You say it like you expect everybody to be able to block Scorpion in every scenario, its not possible. I kept saying to myself to just hold down on his wakeup, took a while to get drilled in.

But this is the way fighting games go, people HAVE to get hit by something, and its pretty fucking easy to get hit by most of Scorpions shit.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I don't think UFG was the first person to say this. I think we all say it when we look in the mirror in the morning.
cue I am Legend movie scene

I'm John Carl, I'm the last person on earth. Everyone else is dead to a virus that turned them into inhuman zombies. I live alone with my dog and go out to town every morning on the docks to send out a message incase there is anyone out there. But damnit, scorpion was not broken!
 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Hey guys I'm about to file for a new water company with all of your tears. Cause instead of getting better in the match up or the game all you want to do is cry.
These fools at NRS have not been consistent.

People complain "I cannot move" versus Deathstroke and NRS give low gunshots 10+ more frames of recovery while they include a teleport that leaves the screen in 7 frames.

People complain "I cannot anti air Doomsday's splash" and NRS tone down the hitbox of the splash while they include Scorpion's jump 3.

People complain "I cannot punish Aquaman's low scoop" and NRS make the move a lot more unsafe while Killer Frost's slide, which has three times more range, remains the same.

So they "normalize" certain moves only to "unnormalize" them a patch later, recycle them, and give them to another character.

How do these "balance" changes make any sense to you?
 

A F0xy Grampa

Problem X Promotions
These fools at NRS have not been consistent.

People complain "I cannot move" versus Deathstroke and NRS give low gunshots 10+ more frames of recovery while they include a teleport that leaves the screen in 7 frames.

People complain "I cannot anti air Doomsday's splash" and NRS tone down the hitbox of the splash while they include Scorpion's jump 3.

People complain "I cannot punish Aquaman's low scoop" and NRS make the move a lot more unsafe while Killer Frost's slide, which has three times more range, remains the same.

So they "normalize" certain moves only to "unnormalize" them a patch later, recycle them, and give them to another character.

How do these "balance" changes make any sense to you?
For the game to be back where it should, I'd say give DS his old guns back, and remove Scorpion from tournament play. Then we have a pretty sweet playing field.

Everything else in the game people are complaining about isn't really as much of an issue as you seem to think it is, you have to think outside the box in this game.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
I know the Black Adam match up very well. You just aren't as good as the black adam players I play. Sorry.
I saw that with your batman and doomsday.

Didn't I actually win a few sets vs scorpion, unlike rico who lost to that BS 20-0?

FYI, I couldn't care less about losing. I won't just sit and pretend that scorpion is balanced in a game where you don't have to learn matchups with him and people having the nerve to call him balanced just because they're gonna get a fat check at the end of the next month with this character.

Go post a scorpion is balanced topic after EVO.
 

Qwark28

Joker waiting room
If Rico Suave is bad I really want to know these mystical black adam players you grind against. So fucking retarded.
Just don't reply, he's of course gonna defend the character who will get him his paycheck next month.
 

RiBBz22

TYM's Confirmed Prophet/Time-Traveler
These fools at NRS have not been consistent.

People complain "I cannot move" versus Deathstroke and NRS give low gunshots 10+ more frames of recovery while they include a teleport that leaves the screen in 7 frames.

People complain "I cannot anti air Doomsday's splash" and NRS tone down the hitbox of the splash while they include Scorpion's jump 3.

People complain "I cannot punish Aquaman's low scoop" and NRS make the move a lot more unsafe while Killer Frost's slide, which has three times more range, remains the same.

So they "normalize" certain moves only to "unnormalize" them a patch later, recycle them, and give them to another character.

How do these "balance" changes make any sense to you?
How many times have you said low shots since UFGT?
 
I will say no more. You all can just hold that
I saw that with your batman and doomsday.

Didn't I actually win a few sets vs scorpion, unlike rico who lost to that BS 20-0?

FYI, I couldn't care less about losing. I won't just sit and pretend that scorpion is balanced in a game where you don't have to learn matchups with him and people having the nerve to call him balanced just because they're gonna get a fat check at the end of the next month with this character.

Go post a scorpion is balanced topic after EVO.
You are better than Rico's BA by far. I am really just talking about smargasm hes the best BA i've played.

I will say no more. Good luck to you all and godspeed
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
I will say no more. You all can just hold that

You are better than Rico's BA by far. I am really just talking about smargasm hes the best BA i've played.

I will say no more. Good luck to you all and godspeed
OOOH WE ALL CAN HOLD THAT! WE WILL BE IN AWE WHEN YOU WIN EVO WITH SCORPION! HES FINE, WE'RE JUST NOT ON YOUR LEVEL!

Calling it now. If Scorpion gets fixed, you're fucked at EVO. I've seen to many players that make your other characters look like a baby in a gerber commercial.
 

Sao87

@thedigitaldojo
I wouldn't go that far, it's just a game and a character.

I'm actually wondering how the hell would they remove scorpion without upsetting the filthy casuals. Maybe nerf him to the ground and give a free DLC character instead?

Well the obvious answer is increase start up frames, make both versions of teleport punishable mid flight and increase recovery frames. Apparently the engine can't handle this and it will ruin all of his combos. I think Microsoft fucked up, NRS was forced to release him prematurely and now were paying the consequences.
 

GrundyFox

I will spit on your tomb!
Please shut up. You know you wan't him to stay the same because you think he will be your free check at EVO. What pisses me off the most is that CDJR seems to be the only tester who is concerned about balance. Everyone else sarcastically jokes about scorpion as if he is fine and will help the game. Support the fucking company that hired you and don't let the game fail.

In fact I'm going to go one step further and say why the fuck does NRS hire people like you to write guides in the first place. You can't be of much use if all you care about is your tournament life. If you were useful in the guide writing process I would be very surprised, selfish diva. colt

 

M2Dave

Zoning Master
Everything else in the game people are complaining about isn't really as much of an issue as you seem to think it is, you have to think outside the box in this game.
If you think so, you are fooling yourself.

Perhaps you also have to consider that not every player uses a top 5 character.

Take Black Adam, for example. 70% of the cast can simply not catch this character when used correctly. Sometimes you also have to worry about this character occasionally tossing unblockable projectiles at you.

To think that this game is balanced is absurd. I believe this game's balance is worse than MK9's at the moment. While some characters (i.e., Aquaman, Deathstroke) are getting "normalized", others have remained the same since April 16th (i.e., Black Adam, Killer Frost). In fact, the game was much more balanced on day one.
 
Yo Sao.... bring it down a notch lol. I'm being really lenient with this thread but try not to push things much farther than you are right now and we won't have a problem :)
 

HGTV Soapboxfan

"Always a Pleasure"
I wasn't really serious lol.
Well then, back to not giving a fuck. It's early, i guess I missed that. It's weird because as Aquaman I shut down so much of scorpion's apparently broken shit, I have no problem with the character at all. So I really have no opinion. However there are opinions that I trust.
 

RiBBz22

TYM's Confirmed Prophet/Time-Traveler
Yo Sao.... bring it down a notch lol. I'm being really lenient with this thread but try not to push things much farther than you are right now and we won't have a problem :)
You ninja'd my statement because your moderator startup frames must be less. Sao87 we gotta stop it with the personal attacks.
 
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