Injustice Complete Character Tier List + With Rumored Patch Updated 6-17-13

[YOMI MITYEAP]

lobo is top.

level up ur prob bad.

play my friend lobo he unlocks his hidden potential.

*insert typical line of some random tech talk that promotes lobo as being 100% fine*

yall just have no idea

keep sleeping on him i will rub it in all ur face when lobo wins evo

oh wait, I know who this is, REO!!!!. Ah ok you want to troll me ehh? next time i'm going to pay more attention to a post when you make it with a diff account, I didn't bother reading the whole thing but decided to and saw the part where you said "I stopped caring to post most tech" and when you said "false propaganda". Yes this explains it all. You got me good tho, I didn't notice haha. No hard feelings tho. And I never knew you used flash parry that early, could've just said that and been done with, my fault. Also I never cared for lao, I've always been able to beat him . And yeah I know you were the original kabal, many have said that. See ya at evo

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Yo MITJDT, for the love of god use the edit button.. no need for quadruple posts and shit...

I dont get how this topic turned into "who can stroke their e-peen the most". Smh lol

nah I would rather not use edit, thanks for the heads up tho. And ayy, not my fault ppl want to make ridiculous post. I dnt know if you have seen my posts in other threads, but I have no issue putting someone on blast, have done it a lot of times and won't stop now.

 

[PTG Slayer]

Ares out the lab, add me on Live PTG Slayer if you want to go a few rounds.

 

[TrulyAmiracle]

Thats not my point, put people on blast all you want, just compile all the shit in 1 post. Replying to 1 retarded post with 5 different ones isnt really helping ~___~;

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

Thats not my point, put people on blast all you want, just compile all the shit in 1 post. Replying to 1 retarded post with 5 different ones isnt really helping ~___~;

well I like it , lol alright alright, I got ya man. I'll make sure to do that from now on. And I deleted some of my post if that helps.

 

[Faded Dreams V]

I like how REO indirectly admitted who he was multiple times and acted exactly the same as always on his alt account, but typed like an incomprehensible retard, and still managed to trick people.

That's rich.

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

I like how REO indirectly admitted who he was multiple times and acted exactly the same as always on his alt account, but typed like an incomprehensible retard, and still managed to trick people.

That's rich.

lol he got my ass. I didn't even notice, I was just salty and ready to put him on blast. But someone let me know that was REO, and then I was like "OHHHHHHHH" haha. Reo S tier in trolling.

 

[SunLord5]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsA1nzntsww#t=06m34s
(And watch all of the matches of Killer Frost vs Scorpion)
There's no way she has no bad matchups. I already do the neutral jump reset with Frost. It catches some people off guard. That sucks that she won't have more than one combo that leads into the 50/50 though. She used to have 3, now has 2, in future has 1... dayum. The f113 dagger ender into a slide was the swaggiest combo to 50/50 in the whole game in my opinion. Now they can just jump away from it. I suppose we can just do the reset without jumping but I'm worried about the combo normalization more than the trait nerf. If her combos do 20% less that will be boring.

 

[SunLord5]

Bane is under the radar, he is a monster. He has practically the highest damage out in the game on specials and interactables. Fight ajuiceman or maxintensity and tell me bane is dead last.

 

[SaJa]

MITDJT

No offence dude, don't be pissed off lol. I'm just saying that it's not that long to figure out if a character is good or bad. We just need to have a look on high player's tier list, kommunity's tier list, tournaments' casting (which is, like mk9 was, most of the time the same arrived top 17), frame data, couple of weeks in the lab, normals, and specials to figure out if a char is decent or not.
Obviously you can find new tech, but I really think it won't change the character that much unless you find an infinite or something which will be patched asap.

I always supported you, your brother (until cyrax), woundcowboy, Scar and Pig since mk9 for being the only guys playing characters that we didn't use to see in high level tournaments so your arguments getting out from your mouth are legit, but I still give you my opinion because that's why TYM exists.

As long as I won't see the "bottom/unexplored char" in a high level tournament (without crazy buff patch), I'll stay on my position. I already see a ton of batgirls in tournament whereas she has been released recently. And I can bet I'll see a lot of scorpion at EVO. So why some character are top 8 viable day 1, where some other are still "supposedly unexplored" by the kommunity and underused by progamers after 2 months ?
I wanna believe to coincidence, but I'm not superstitious. :/

 

[YOMI MITYEAP]

MITDJT

No offence dude, don't be pissed off lol. I'm just saying that it's not that long to figure out if a character is good or bad. We just need to have a look on high player's tier list, kommunity's tier list, tournaments' casting (which is, like mk9 was, most of the time the same arrived top 17), frame data, couple of weeks in the lab, normals, and specials to figure out if a char is decent or not.
Obviously you can find new tech, but I really think it won't change the character that much unless you find an infinite or something which will be patched asap.

I always supported you, your brother (until cyrax) and Pig since mk9 for being the only guys playing characters that we didn't use to see in high level tournaments so your arguments getting out from your mouth are legit, but I still give you my opinion because that's why TYM exists.

As long as I won't see the "bottom/unexplored char" in a high level tournament (without crazy buff patch), I'll stay on my position. I already see a ton of batgirls in tournament whereas she has been released recently. And I can bet I'll see a lot of scorpion at EVO. So why some character are top 8 viable day 1, where some other are still "supposedly unexplored" by the kommunity and underused by progamers after 2 months ?
I wanna believe to coincidence, but I'm not superstitious. :/

I can respect this, no hard feelings, I was just expressing my opinion haha. And you had me rolling at "respect your brother (until cyrax)" haha that is gold. Actually he does utilize the dirt he has of course, but he has very good patience and spacing with him as well and doesn't even need a reset to beat ppl at times bcuz he is just that good with him. He does very well vs kabal players bcuz of this. Overall, yeah some are just bad and stay bad, others ppl find something really good and they become viable. Either way, lets just enjoy us some damn IGAU at CEO and EVO!!!!!!!, also keep repping dat flash!!!!!! he is quite the interesting character.

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Bane is under the radar, he is a monster. He has practically the highest damage out in the game on specials and interactables. Fight ajuiceman or maxintensity and tell me bane is dead last.

what are their online tags per system

challenge accepted

 

[SunLord5]

what are their online tags per system

challenge accepted

Awesome
ajuiceman and maxintensity25 (PSN)

 

[Pig Of The Hut]

Awesome
ajuiceman and maxintensity25 (PSN)

will post videos after we play

 

[Sao87]

Bane is under the radar, he is a monster. He has practically the highest damage out in the game on specials and interactables. Fight ajuiceman or maxintensity and tell me bane is dead last.

Does Bane do extra damage with interactables when hes venomed up?

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

Does Bane do extra damage with interactables when hes venomed up?

yes

 

[Sao87]

yes

For example on atlantis. How much damage does he do with throwable/aquariums?

 

[SaJa]

I can respect this, no hard feelings, I was just expressing my opinion haha. And you had me rolling at "respect your brother (until cyrax)" haha that is gold. Actually he does utilize the dirt he has of course, but he has very good patience and spacing with him as well and doesn't even need a reset to beat ppl at times bcuz he is just that good with him. He does very well vs kabal players bcuz of this. Overall, yeah some are just bad and stay bad, others ppl find something really good and they become viable. Either way, lets just enjoy us some damn IGAU at CEO and EVO!!!!!!!, also keep repping dat flash!!!!!! he is quite the interesting character.

I love playing a game as much as I love watching progamers playing. And there is nothing more frustating for me (and most of my friends) than seing all time the same char in tournaments (resets or not ^^). I'll keep playing Flash because he is fun and at my casual level he is still viable (my secondary is BA anyway lol), but it is sad that I won't be able to see any of them in a major that I can watch with popcorn (and I'm not blaming top players because they do have sponsors and cashprice etc..).

Now that I'm thinking about, I'm agree with you but in the opposite way. Some top char can be worse just finding new tech to counter them. I have in mind the reptile/ermac domination when the game came out. Same about Jax when cdjr was dominating. But overwise, a bottom char rarely becomes good just like that because he is already fucked up on his fondamental moves compare to the other.

Anyway, I should make a new thread about it but do you guys think a fighting game can be perfectly balanced ? I mean, a fighting game where every char would be top 8 viable. I heard tekken was kind of. The thing is, and that wasn't the case when I used to play starcraft 2, that making patch every months and for a long time isn't good/pleasant for IGAU/mk9 progamers. Yet it allows us to go the lab over and over (which is good for the game duration), always work on our characters, and balance the game as much as we possibly can to have more fun.
After 10 years, starcraft 1 was perfectly balanced and yet it's a RTS. But in fighting game it seems the time is missing.

 

[usedcarsalesmang]

For example on atlantis. How much damage does he do with throwable/aquariums?

10 commandments- Normal: 20.00% damage
Level 1 venom: 22.00%
Level 2 venom: 25.00%
Level 3 venom: 30.00%


Aquarium- Normal: 22.00% damage
Level 1 venom: 24.20%
Level 2 venom: 27.50%
Level 3 venom: 33.00%

 

[ceemurda]

lobo is top.

level up ur prob bad.

play my friend lobo he unlocks his hidden potential.

*insert typical line of some random tech talk that promotes lobo as being 100% fine*

yall just have no idea

keep sleeping on him i will rub it in all ur face when lobo wins evo

Lmao! I needed that laugh... Got anymore jokes?

Sent from my SCH-R920 using Tapatalk 2

 

[SaltShaker]

Raven loses to

Scorp
Frost
Bat Girl
Doomsday
Superman ??

Goes 5-5 With
Sinestro (could be in his favor)
WW (could be in her favor)
and a slew of others

Ares is questionable but i see it as 5-5
Black adam idk honestly


With this being said she doesnt really dominate a lot of the cast but gets rocked by a few top tiers hard. She doesnt 8-2 7-3 anyone imo except POSSIBLY lantern but still a lot of characters can potentially rock lantern due to his movement.

edit: She probably destroys Luthor

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the Raven post since Raven, Frost, and Sinestro are literally the only chars I've played since day 1.

With more and more MU experience I've found the Batgirl MU a hell of a lot easier. Raven is one of the few chars that can force Batgirl into taking extra risk outside her comfort zone and maintaining proper spacing for punishing into combos works wonders. If played right she can dominate the range game and make her fear throwing out a teleport. I'm borderline from calling this 5-5 at worst.

WW MU is def in WW's favor. Any Raven player saying this is 5-5 has not played a strong WW. 4-6 at best. Time will tell if its even worse.

I'd also say she is one of BA's few bad MU's. she can counter dive kick to high hell. I welcome dive kicks when using Raven. She can punish lightning or MB lightning from almost anywhere and from full screen on read when in stance for 40% or a reset. BA has an incredibly hard time in her strong range. With Frost and Sinestro this MU feels MUCH more difficult than with Raven.

Raven utterly dominates GL. 7-3. Talking with a player of your skill level this needs no breakdown.

She seems 5-5 against top tiers like Aquaman and Sinestro, and I think over time people will see she 6-4's Batman.

Scorpion, DD, and Supes might be her worst MU's. Nightwing is bad. WW is bad.

She destroys GL, Hawkgirl, Bane, Harley, Lobo, Joker, Lex, by at least 7-3.

Overall I agree with most of your placements on the updated list. Might make a couple of tweaks here and there but overall the most accurate list by far I've seen. Just throwing in my 2 cents on Raven.

 

[SunLord5]

Does anyone know which stages are top tier to go along with these characters? Power Ground, Power Flying, Acrobatic, Gadget
Insurgency? Gotham City Alley? Metropolis Rooftop for some? I choose Insurgency as Power and Alley as Acrobat/Gadget.


Most importantly
Which stage requires the least processing?(assuming there is any stage lag). Check

 

[ceemurda]

Just wanted to throw in my 2 cents on the Raven post since Raven, Frost, and Sinestro are literally the only chars I've played since day 1.

With more and more MU experience I've found the Batgirl MU a hell of a lot easier. Raven is one of the few chars that can force Batgirl into taking extra risk outside her comfort zone and maintaining proper spacing for punishing into combos works wonders. If played right she can dominate the range game and make her fear throwing out a teleport. I'm borderline from calling this 5-5 at worst.

WW MU is def in WW's favor. Any Raven player saying this is 5-5 has not played a strong WW. 4-6 at best. Time will tell if its even worse.

I'd also say she is one of BA's few bad MU's. she can counter dive kick to high hell. I welcome dive kicks when using Raven. She can punish lightning or MB lightning from almost anywhere and from full screen on read when in stance for 40% or a reset. BA has an incredibly hard time in her strong range. With Frost and Sinestro this MU feels MUCH more difficult than with Raven.

Raven utterly dominates GL. 7-3. Talking with a player of your skill level this needs no breakdown.

She seems 5-5 against top tiers like Aquaman and Sinestro, and I think over time people will see she 6-4's Batman.

Scorpion, DD, and Supes might be her worst MU's. Nightwing is bad. WW is bad.

She destroys GL, Hawkgirl, Bane, Harley, Lobo, Joker, Lex, by at least 7-3.

Overall I agree with most of your placements on the updated list. Might make a couple of tweaks here and there but overall the most accurate list by far I've seen. Just throwing in my 2 cents on Raven.

more funnies.. especially the part about hawkgirl

 

[SunLord5]

Bane is projectile immune on level 3 venom.

 

[Fromundaman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsA1nzntsww#t=06m34s
(And watch all of the matches of Killer Frost vs Scorpion)
There's no way she has no bad matchups. I already do the neutral jump reset with Frost. It catches some people off guard. That sucks that she won't have more than one combo that leads into the 50/50 though. She used to have 3, now has 2, in future has 1... dayum. The f113 dagger ender into a slide was the swaggiest combo to 50/50 in the whole game in my opinion. Now they can just jump away from it. I suppose we can just do the reset without jumping but I'm worried about the combo normalization more than the trait nerf. If her combos do 20% less that will be boring.

Did people choose to forget the context this was originally posted in? I have seen this video thrown around as proof of whatever the topic of the thread happens to be without context since roughly 2 hours after RunawayMafia shared it.

It was online, and RunawayMafia said it was the first time he EVER played against a Scorpion at the time those matches were recorded.

I mean it might be a terrible MU, I have no idea, but let's not throw someone's 1st experience with a character, online no less, as some sort of proof of anything, especially when one of the characters has been nerfed since the time that was recorded.