Can't tell if trolling or super bad with batgirl. Batgirl vortex is better then KF (or equal at worst) and she CAN go into 40%+ from teleports
Very thoughtful post as always. From your posts in the Cyborg forum I know you're familiar with the character. Based on these recent developments do you feel Cyborg can be effective against competent players if used properly? If the answer is yes what strategies would you recommend.Wow. Some of the people posting here SMH. I may not always agree with Dave, but you guys are fools if you think he doesn't know what he is talking about. There is always some truth in what he is saying...even when trolling. He has been playing FGs for a long time... show some respect.
As for this game, zoning has been hurt a lot. With DS nefs and the removal of Cyborgs IANB hitting mid, two of the zoners took a hard hit. Sinestro got buffs.. but his particular zoning style is easy to get around with a lot of the character tools.
I agree that zoning in this game is much less effective than in MK. Kabal, Freddy, and Kenshi could all be considered zoners and low and behold they could all also be considered top 5 characters. Right now, there is no top 5 zoner in Injustice,U nless you count superman that is.... which means zoners will not really be able to compete at the highest level unless they have a secondary. And no one likes to pick up a character just so they can face tough match-ups. People want to be able to play the characters they like, in a playstyle they like. If they cant then it is a perfectly legitimate reason to complain.
OH MY GOD THAT SIGdoes this mean you're dead to? RIP in pieces M2dave
Yeah you shouldnt be able to win with zoning alone... But its ok to win with RUSHDOWN alone like everyone is praising around talking about how mashing buttons and scrubby mix ups in someones face takes so much more skill.I cant believe I actually heard people say that you shouldnt be able to win with zoning alone in this thread, that is pathetic
I was doing well, but this is vanilla version/my character is broken/ it's because of the stage it will probably be banned..." Just so much... Doubt.
You actually had me worried for the first nine words in you sentence, God this makes me sad that some people who post here think thatYeah you shouldnt be able to win with zoning alone... But its ok to win with RUSHDOWN alone like everyone is praising around talking about how mashing buttons and scrubby mix ups in someones face takes so much more skill.
#HerpDerp.
Bad gamers these days. They are every where
Oh it has been said before, if you want a consistent character who probably wont be touched... pick superman or batmanPlay Batman. Several patches in and he has yet to be touched.
Mods can we atart deleting idiotic posts like this. Ill use sinestro as an example his fear blast has 9 start of frames batgirls teleport has 15 frames ofstart up. How in the fuck can your grandma react in -6 frames, unless she can see into the god damn future.You have to be a pretty BAD player to lose to zoners in Injustice with characters like Batgirl and Scorpion in the game. even my grandma can punish fireballs on reaction with those two
And this is coming from a Bane player...
Play Batman. Several patches in and he has yet to be touched.
Noit isnt d1 beats everything she does.You are right about Batgirl's reach, but you are 100% wrong about her pressure because it is ridiculous.
Yes he is a solid and dare I say it "fair" character, the sad part is that other fair characters have been nerfed, tbh I am glad that batman wont be touched, but I am scared for the other charactersHe has been touched. Nerfed damage and trait from demo. Has holes in all his good strings. Requires trait to be good. Would you guys rather them buff his strings and make them safe while needing his trait which already goes away on pushblock. Imagine if 223 was safe lol. You guys are hilarious.
If you guess correctly which is the case in most matchups. Every time she touches you it is a guessing game and my Batgirl loves to touch.Noit isnt d1 beats everything she does.
123 is the string for me!He has been touched. Nerfed damage and trait from demo. Has holes in all his good strings. Requires trait to be good. Would you guys rather them buff his strings and make them safe while needing his trait which already goes away on pushblock. Imagine if 223 was safe lol. You guys are hilarious.
Vortex =/= pressure vortex=vortex. F23 breath batman with his trait and j2 thats pressure. Outside of her vortex d1 beats b1 or b2 every single time for every character in the game.If you guess correctly which is the case in most matchups. Every time she touches you it is a guessing game and my Batgirl loves to touch.
blockstring into cartwheel is not a vortex. When did I ever mention pressure being a vortex?Vortex =/= pressure vortex=vortex. F23 breath batman with his trait and j2 thats pressure. Outside of her vortex d1 beats b1 or b2 every single time for every character in the game.
Wow. Some of the people posting here SMH. I may not always agree with Dave, but you guys are fools if you think he doesn't know what he is talking about. There is always some truth in what he is saying...even when trolling. He has been playing FGs for a long time... show some respect.
As for this game, zoning has been hurt a lot. With DS nefs and the removal of Cyborgs IANB hitting mid, two of the zoners took a hard hit. Sinestro got buffs.. but his particular zoning style is easy to get around with a lot of the character tools.
I agree that zoning in this game is much less effective than in MK. Kabal, Freddy, and Kenshi could all be considered zoners and low and behold they could all also be considered top 5 characters. Right now, there is no top 5 zoner in Injustice,U nless you count superman that is.... which means zoners will not really be able to compete at the highest level unless they have a secondary. And no one likes to pick up a character just so they can face tough match-ups. People want to be able to play the characters they like, in a playstyle they like. If they cant then it is a perfectly legitimate reason to complain.
Cartwheel isnt safe if you are tossing it out to maybe get 2% from the mix up at the risk of getting full combo punished then you are a bad batgirl.blockstring into cartwheel is not a vortex. When did I ever mention pressure being a vortex?
People seem to forget that Kabal and Kenshi had zoning tools that only like a couple characters had tools to deal with. On top of this, they had solid enough offense to combat said characters that could handle this. That is why they were the top 2 characters in the game. They weren't pure zoners to begin with, anyway, not like Freddy, Cyborg, and Sinestro are. Freddy could survive because, like Kabal and Kenshi, he had zoning most of the cast couldn't handle. Was he top 5, though? With the other characters in MK9, that's easily arguable he wasn't.Wow. Some of the people posting here SMH. I may not always agree with Dave, but you guys are fools if you think he doesn't know what he is talking about. There is always some truth in what he is saying...even when trolling. He has been playing FGs for a long time... show some respect.
As for this game, zoning has been hurt a lot. With DS nefs and the removal of Cyborgs IANB hitting mid, two of the zoners took a hard hit. Sinestro got buffs.. but his particular zoning style is easy to get around with a lot of the character tools.
I agree that zoning in this game is much less effective than in MK. Kabal, Freddy, and Kenshi could all be considered zoners and low and behold they could all also be considered top 5 characters. Right now, there is no top 5 zoner in Injustice,U nless you count superman that is.... which means zoners will not really be able to compete at the highest level unless they have a secondary. And no one likes to pick up a character just so they can face tough match-ups. People want to be able to play the characters they like, in a playstyle they like. If they cant then it is a perfectly legitimate reason to complain.
He needs to throw a big ass sombrero like Kung LaoThere is only one solution. Give projectiles to the projectileless characters. Truly double down on and revive zoning. Give Bane players a knife throw and an AK47. We will need it.
Oh, I am the worst Batgirl! All I do is strings into cartwheel. I don't have any other mind games or any other mixups or ways to do damage. Everyone just d1's me and I am just so sad!Cartwheel isnt safe if you are tossing it out to maybe get 2% from the mix up at the risk of getting full combo punished then you are a bad batgirl.