Maybe its just me...

[jaym7018]

Or i could just hold my lol block button.

 

[THTB]

Okay, guys, all fighting games have footsies. They don't always appear the same, but they're there.

And judging from the comments here, quite a few of you guys do not understand footsies in general.

 

[jaym7018]

Okay, guys, all fighting games have footsies. They don't always appear the same, but they're there.

And judging from the comments here, quite a few of you guys do not understand footsies in general.

MK players tend to think footsies is just mashing dash into down + a normal.

 

[THTB]

MK players tend to think footsies is just mashing dash into down + a normal.

No. They don't.

This kinda proves my point.

 

[redeyes]

my lord you guys are about as annoying as COD players compairing MW to BO

to the guys saying derp i cant AA with a jab. well maybe they made it like that cause AA jabs ruined jump ins. you had to be scared to do it cause people could AA on reaction. in this game you AA on read not on reaction and AA's are noramlly uppercuts. WW Aquaman, Grundy, supes, etc.


to the guys saying no footsies, i dare you to try ur MK style footsies in a game like MVC or any anime game. i bet u get blown up. new game new style of footsies.

Too much armor? dude everyone has it thats a blessing unlike in MK where every special rain and kenshi had had armor but other people were fucked without a trace of armor

wake ups? dude everyone ( i think dont hold me to this) has 1 invincible wake up option. weather it be safe or not they have 1 and its ur choice to use it or not.

interactables? MB DC and punish its something we all need to take some timeout and learn.

this game is too safe? MB b3 or F3 it blows up backdashs, wake ups, suoes f23 icebreath loop.

to the people saying too much zoning. uh hello Kenshi & kabal?

im not bashing MK9 MK9 broke my FG cherry and will always hold a special place in my heart but this is not MK guys we need to learn and accept that. sadly MK is going to die no matter how hard we try its going to die off it doesnt have that big of support. NRS has blessed us with a FG that can bring all communicates together. Capcom, NRS, anime everyone can play this game. We need to get our heads out our asses and play this game to the highest level and not let the capcom guys take over our game! we hyped this shit up. lets keep proving to them that our MK experience isnt a waste that Mk is on a level with SSF and MVC that it can teach u basic FG fundamentals. come on guys dont give up in injustice just adapt. this game is a blast yeah some shit is BS but if your playing at high level u wont get BSed that badly & if u do i bet they had a reason to throw that robot at u. cause you didnt MBDC the last one or use backdash invincibility frames to escape it ( yeah that works too)



isnt there a shirt that says buff nerf patch ADAPT?

 

[jaym7018]

No. They don't.

This kinda proves my point.

They really do. Lack of good fundamentals is a big reason MK players hardly ever branch out to other games.

 

[Unkultured]

you can d1 a crossup into a combo and you can even dash out if your talking bout mk9

No hostility from me at all. I'm just being honest.

But, MK9 doesn't actually have Cross-Ups. It's more of an "Attack That Ends Up On The Other Side".

You just hold your Block Button while standing and you're fine.

I understand that in MK9, you can D1 an Attack That Ends Up On The Other Side and combo.

That's MK9 though.

It's been said many times before, if you prefer MK9 over Injustice/Any other Fighting Game. Don't let it die then.

Keep playing and supporting MK9.

 

[GGA Wafflez]

little late to this thread, but i am playing just so my team can get experience. i will enter tournaments in which i attend, but my main focus is mortal kombat because it's DA BEST. fuck yo interactables, fuck yo divekicks black adam

 

[TotteryManx]

This makes no sense

You quickly have become ignored by a lot

I called you a hypocrite because you've been busting my balls about being wrong to a rude level. I admitted I was wrong days ago, yet you are continuing to be malice. I've been on this site for a couple of years and have seen you make some pretty extreme claims as well, but no one is crucifying you for it. I seem to remember a certain Deathstroke thread you made that was over the top. What about the thread whining about Sinestro? I'm not busting your hump about those things because I know you probably regret it, so, why rub it in? I've fessed up to being wrong and admitted I overreacted. Grow up.

 

[aldazo]

I called you a hypocrite because you've been busting my balls about being wrong to a rude level. I admitted I was wrong days ago, yet you are continuing to be malice. I've been on this site for a couple of years and have seen you make some pretty extreme claims as well, but no one is crucifying you for it. I seem to remember a certain Deathstroke thread you made that was over the top. What about the thread whining about Sinestro? I'm not busting your hump about those things because I know you probably regret it, so, why rub it in? I've fessed up to being wrong and admitted I overreacted. Grow up.

*ahem* There is a club I joined recently, its name is "I Hate Pig", when you have time pls pm me so I can do the works in order to welcome you as a new member. .
P.S: I'm not the president just a fellow member...And remember, you're not alone. .

 

[Zoidberg747]

Okay, guys, all fighting games have footsies. They don't always appear the same, but they're there.

And judging from the comments here, quite a few of you guys do not understand footsies in general.

Ill go ahead and spell it out. People also have no idea what zoning really is.

FOOTSIES: Footsies is using generally safe long ranged attacks to try and get a reaction out of your opponent and punishing it. I.e using LONG RANGE POKES(Not dash into pokes) or safe long range specials. The main point of footsies in general is to get your opponent to react, and punish. You are also generally outside combo range when playing footsies, but due to a lot of fullscreen combo starters in this game(Catwoman dash, Raven Event Horizon, Batman Grapple), you always have to be sure you are safe.

ZONING: Zoning DOES NOT ALWAYS INVOLVE PROJECTILES. Zoning is setting yourself up so you can punish every move your opponent can make and control the pace of the match. So if your just sitting at fullscreen throwing out Deathstroke's guns, in order to zone you have to be prepared for armored specials and counter projectiles. Other examples of zoning are cornering the opponent,punishing all jump ins, and punishing most unsafe moves. So basically, zoning is just controlling the match and knowing your opponents next move. Projectiles are only a small part of zoning as a whole.

Anyone else let me know if you want to know FGs 101 lol

 

[TotteryManx]

Ill go ahead and spell it out. People also have no idea what zoning really is.

FOOTSIES: Footsies is using generally safe long ranged attacks to try and get a reaction out of your opponent and punishing it. I.e using LONG RANGE POKES(Not dash into pokes) or safe long range specials. The main point of footsies in general is to get your opponent to react, and punish.

ZONING: Zoning DOES NOT ALWAYS INVOLVE PROJECTILES. Zoning is setting yourself up so you can punish every move your opponent can make and control the pace of the match. So if your just sitting at fullscreen throwing out Deathstroke's guns, in order to zone you have to be prepared for armored specials and counter projectiles. Other examples of zoning are cornering the opponent,punishing all jump ins, and punishing most unsafe moves. So basically, zoning is just controlling the match and knowing your opponents next move. Projectiles are only a small part of zoning as a whole.

Anyone else let me know if you want to know FGs 101 lol

Nice post. +1

I always call footsies whiff punishing lol. My objective when I play is to get my opponent to make a move, rather if its a normal or jumping w/e. I usually dash back and punish what they do. With that said, it is more difficult to do something so simple with fast projectiles and interactables. It's just modified around those things.

 

[Qwark28]

Yeah, but how long was it until people actually started using AA jabs? Like, a year into the game? Lul

try less than a week.

 

[TotteryManx]

*ahem* There is a club I joined recently, its name is "I Hate Pig", when you have time pls pm me so I can do the works in order to welcome you as a new member. .
P.S: I'm not the president just a fellow member...And remember, you're not alone. .

lol. I use to have a lot of respect for the guy, but ever since I acted dramatically about DS he's been pretty rude. Where I come from when someone owns up to their mistakes all is forgiven. Or, at the least they are given some dignity. This guy though....man....this guy.

 

[RYX]

try less than a week.

Of the limited experience I have I never saw anyone using AA jabs that early.

I can't argue with Captain Qwark though

 

[Qwark28]

Of the limited experience I have I never saw anyone using AA jabs that early.

I can't argue with Captain Qwark though

AA jabs were used very early, the greek scene started AAing crossups after a month and people were calling our scene ahead of time

 

[xenogorgeous]

Nice post. +1

I always call footsies whiff punishing lol. My objective when I play is to get my opponent to make a move, rather if its a normal or jumping w/e. I usually dash back and punish what they do. With that said, it is more difficult to do something so simple with fast projectiles and interactables. It's just modified around those things.

footsies it's a combination of poking safely in the best possible range + baiting wisely + whiff punishment .... plus having a great spacing notion and great skill using movement and dashes .... it's a so advancing and amazing concept that only experienced and veteran players with some years of fighting games gameplay acquired can archive/reach in the highest possible level and meaning of the footsie context .... hehe

 

[RYX]

AA jabs were used very early, the greek scene started AAing crossups after a month and people were calling our scene ahead of time

US is slow ;_;

 

[jaym7018]

You dont get off scott free for admitting your overreactuon though. You have to allow a few days grace period for us to make fun of you. Tournament was sunday to days wednesday at least wait till friday before deeming yourseld a pig hater. Look at M2 dave he went into witsec after his QQ blow up.

 

[miloPKL]

here are my thoughts. i never claim to be right, this is just my line of thinking. feel free to discuss.

i disagree this game is easier than MK. i think this game has more elements to learn than mk. initially i read a lot saying its easier and friendlier and bla bla. i also asked people at my local how they feel. they say its easier than MK, but i still disagree.

MK:
EN moves
Breakers
Xrays
what am i missing?

INJ:
Ex moves
Clash
Super
Traits
Interactables
Screen Transitions
Universal MB Normals [the Focus Attack and Dash Cancel] [very deep system]

this game has a new-to-NRS cross up system similar to street fighter and i feel like many people are still not accustomed to it
i feel like people are still not fully aware of interactables and how to manage and dodge them
i feel like people are not making use of MB Armor Normals to their full potential [covering ground, feinting and baiting, safe screen transition]
and i know there are MK players who are still not used to back to block

all of this probably doesnt apply to tournament goers but the majority of people on this site don't actually go to tournaments and dont actually fully understand this game yet. thats my interpretation.

 

[aldazo]

lol. I use to have a lot of respect for the guy, but ever since I acted dramatically about DS he's been pretty rude. Where I come from when someone owns up to their mistakes all is forgiven. Or, at the least they are given some dignity. This guy though....man....this guy.

Hahahahahahahaha. I don`t know how he does it but he can turn you mad in a blink . Sadly the club has few members (the majority just couldn't take Pig and abandon the forum ) I hope you turn a longtime member, plus now we have REO on our side. .

 

[Zoidberg747]

Nice post. +1

I always call footsies whiff punishing lol. My objective when I play is to get my opponent to make a move, rather if its a normal or jumping w/e. I usually dash back and punish what they do. With that said, it is more difficult to do something so simple with fast projectiles and interactables. It's just modified around those things.

Injustice footsies is weird for a lot of reasons. Fullscreen combo starters mean you have to be safe on all parts of the screen. Projectiles make it harder to get in, and the interactables make it tougher in some situations too. Some mechanics really help footsies though, like invinc. frames on backdash and universal punishers like B3 and F3 MB.

What people need to realize is 99% of the people who claim this game has no fundamentals also admit that MK9 was there first fighting game. The bias is so evident that it really shouldnt be an issue to anyone. That being said those guys need to stop talking like they are some FG god when they dont even know what footsies are. Just play MK or play IGAU, or both. No need to trash one or the other.

 

[TotteryManx]

footsies it's a combination of poking safely in the best possible range + baiting wisely + whiff punishment .... plus having a great spacing notion and great skill using movement and dashes .... it's a so advancing and amazing concept that only experienced and veteran players with some years of fighting games gameplay acquired can archive/reach in the highest possible level and meaning of the footsie context .... hehe

Completely correct sir.

I've played Blanka/Zangief in SF for 10 years now. I'd say I learned more about those topics using geif though. I can't use that approach in Injustice. There are too many "what ifs?"

 

[Hellion_96]

Let's ignore
Bane Venom uppercut
Flash uppercut(not d.2)
Lex Corps Charge
Doomsday Up Venom
Etc.

Let's also ignore that you can MB f.3/b.3 and full combo, or back/forward dash and full combo most of the time.

for the record Flash's flyng uppercut is not an AA at all. It completely whiffs unless they are two dashes away and jump back

 

[Zoidberg747]

footsies it's a combination of poking safely in the best possible range + baiting wisely + whiff punishment .... plus having a great spacing notion and great skill using movement and dashes .... it's a so advancing and amazing concept that only experienced and veteran players with some years of fighting games gameplay acquired can archive/reach in the highest possible level and meaning of the footsie context .... hehe

My first FG was MK9 actually. I just googled it when I heard it the first time. It really isnt that hard of a concept and will improve your game ten fold usually.