Maybe its just me...

[Zoidberg747]

Um.... you didn't understand the point.

I never said patience shouldn't be rewarded.

I think Injustice Focuses on it harder than the other games I like. There's patience in smash/blazblue/Mk9, but that level of patience isn't as ridiculous as what's in "smash bros Brawl for example."


EDIT: do you play Starcraft?

Terran vs Terran is a snooze fest with Tank camping, that requires alot of patiences, and precise decisions.

Not my kind of matchup.

Zerg vs Terran is often really hype because their engagements don't revolve around "thee who approaches will lose their whole army) like the Terran ditto

yeah I see your point I guess, although I disagree

 

[Showtime]

So what are the chances of us seeing that Reptile (the best around imo) at EVO?

I'll train him up and bring him out, just that sonya is a better character for a stage like evo, but I will use reptile for the lizard community at Evo. Just for you guys

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[Critical-Limit]

yeah I see your point I guess, although I disagree

and that's alright if you disagree, because my "dislike" for this game isn't cuz I think it's bad. it's a personal taste.

I'm not saying it's BAD because of it. It's just not for me.

I like making reads, and baiting, and mind games. I just don't like it to happen at a snails pace is all.

 

[Asodimazze]

MK9's netcode is worse than IGAU.

And the rest of your complaints are just saying that you hate this game 'cause it's not MK.

You're right, Mk9 netcode really sucks but IGAU is not different for me.
It is so bad that is nearly unbelievable.
In a country like Italy, where there is not a big mk community, we need a good online to attract new people and make it grow but thanks to NRS this is not possible.

And no, I don't care about mk.
My complains only mean that I dislike this game mechanics, I will drop it in a few months probably

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

You're right, Mk9 netcode really sucks but IGAU is not different for me.
It is so bad that is nearly unbelievable.
In a country like Italy, where there is not a big mk community, we need a good online to attract new people but thanks to NRS this is not possible.

And no, I don't care about mk.
My complains only mean that I dislike this game mechanics, I will drop it in a few months probably

But those mechanics are very present in MK. And having them work the same way in IGAU would make it a clone.

 

[Zoidberg747]

I'll train him up and bring him out, just that sonya is a better character for a stage like evo, but I will use reptile for the lizard community at Evo. Just for you guys

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As an outside observer I still think your Reptile is better than your Sonya. Your sonya is good but your Reptile is so different and crazy that it seems to catch people off guard more. Not forcing or anything just saying.

Off topic: When is the next Houston tournament?

 

[REYTHEGREAT]

Scar, you are not alone. I was hype as hell at first but it is slowly going down. I think a lot of people from top to casual players feel the same also and dont want to admitted just cause is a NRS game and they want to support it. But the truth needs to come out. This game has one of the worst netcode ever. i think its worse than MK9. That alone will turn off many players. I do know that some character might do well with a bad connection but since i play killer frost and doing the U3 online or trying to d1 slide that shit dont connect. It doest sometimes but it is not consistent. Makes me mad. There's other character that online dont perform as well as offline also.

I think another reason players are getting turn off is getting hit by a TV or a car and loosing the round lol. Specially when you main a character that doesnt pick up anything lol. Power characters in a heavy interactable stage has an advantage.

But to me the main issue is online. no1 is talking about it or blowing it up. input delays, lag, etc..

 

[Compbros]

Injustice is disappointing for me so far....expecially for:

1) WORST NETCODE EVER
2) Lack of cancellable dash, lack of good AAs for a lot of chars
3) Buffer windows are too tight or don't exist
4) Retarded wake up system
5) Safe 50/50 that lead to combos
6) Unwinnable matchups
7) Can't stand block without going backwards

1. MK and KoFXiii are worse.
2. And? What is cancellable dash gonna net you in this game? The second part I agree with.
3. The buffer window is too tight, this feels more like a personal thing than a "problem" with the game but I could be wrong.
4. Retarded that you can't just wake up willy-nilly as you rarely have one, or several, "safe" or "invincible" wake ups and so you have to read your opponent and know when to wake up or because you can't just do the input on the ground and it comes out as there is a window for it?
5. Handful of characters.
6. Yeah, there is no such thing in this game or in most fighters. "Hard to win"? Sure. "Unwinnable"? No.
7. You can with fuzzy guarding but this isn't what you're saying. You want to advance or be stationary while being able to block while standing. Do you know how few games do this? This is only for games with block buttons otherwise you will be moving back. It's just a part of "back to block" games.




Edit: On 6. I can't say that as fact though as I rarely pay attention to matchup numbers.

 

[Showtime]

As an outside observer I still think your Reptile is better than your Sonya. Your sonya is good but your Reptile is so different and crazy that it seems to catch people off guard more. Not forcing or anything just saying.

Off topic: When is the next Houston tournament?

For injustice or mk?

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[Unkultured]

Dude I'm not some random scrub, Injustice's LEVEL of it is too much (FOR ME).

That stuff exists in SSBM/MK9/Blazblue, but it's a little more brief, and it happens quicker.

That's it. Is it really that hard to understand?

I like MK9 footsies, I like SSBM footsies, I like Blazblue's footsies.

I don't like INjustice footsies, and for example. I like the depth of street fighter footsies, but I don't like the PACE of it.

Like I said. No hostility from me, towards you or anybody else. I was just replying to that one part of your post.

I understand and respect everybody's viewpoint, especially if it's a Personal one. Not everybody likes the same things. Opinions are opinions.

Honestly, I think this whole thread is silly. Why are people arguing over games? Play the ones you like and don't play the ones you don't like.

To the diehard MK9/MK in General fans. Keep playing MK9 and keep supporting it at Tournaments. Otherwise it'll end up becoming a Side Tourney at Majors. Or worse, actually die out.

Injustice is Injustice. MK9 is MK9. Street Fighter is Street Fighter and so on...

There's no need for all this crap.

 

[Showtime]

Yea ex sfb os my shit, got too many dirty reptile setups with it

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[Critical-Limit]

For the record.
I hold the position that INjustice is a good game.

I just don't personally like it *much* (cuz I don't hate it), for personal taste reasons.

 

[Zoidberg747]

For injustice or mk?

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Both preferably.

It would be easier to get more people to come down for Injustice though.

 

[Wemfs]

Yea ex sfb os my shit, got too many dirty reptile setups with it

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Goin off topic here a little bit, but Reptile seems like he has tons of hidden dirty shit. Do you think Reptile has been fully explored yet?

 

[Critical-Limit]

Like I said. No hostility from me, towards you or anybody else. I was just replying to that one part of your post.

I understand and respect everybody's viewpoint, especially if it's a Personal one. Not everybody likes the same things. Opinions are opinions.

Honestly, I think this whole thread is silly. Why are people arguing over games? Play the ones you like and don't play the ones you don't like.

To the diehard MK9/MK in General fans. Keep playing MK9 and keep supporting it at Tournaments. Otherwise it'll end up becoming a Side Tourney at Majors. Or worse, actually die out.

Injustice is Injustice. MK9 is MK9. Street Fighter is Street Fighter and so on...

There's no need for all this crap.

I'm not arguing, I'm just listing why I *personally* don't like injustice.

the stages in smash(Melee) are generally pretty small and the travel speed of characters is very fast. so pushing someone to a corner happens pretty quickly. Unlike when I'm bane, feels like it takes 10 years.

THTB honestly asked me "wut" cuz he was confused.

And zoidberg jumped the gun on what I ment.

no real arguing only misunderstanding. and this thread is to list why I'm not that hyped. So I was just gonna list my personal gripes.

 

[RYX]

I'm not arguing, I'm just listing why I *personally* don't like injustice.

the stages in smash(Melee) are generally pretty small and the travel speed of characters is very fast. so pushing someone to a corner happens pretty quickly. Unlike when I'm bane, feels like it takes 10 years.

THTB honestly asked me "wut" cuz he was confused.

And zoidberg jumped the gun on what I ment.

no real arguing only misunderstanding. and this thread is to list why I'm not that hyped. So I was just gonna list my personal gripes.

If stages weren't so obnoxiously big Bane would be top tier. That corner game is too godlike.

 

[Showtime]

Zoidberg747 next injustice tournament is Insomnia this Saturday starting at 7pm. Check out insomniavgc.com for address and more info

Wemfs I truly believe there's stuff for reptile no one has found yet, he has alot of gimmicks that havnt been used or not used correctly. Expecially with ex sfb wich I believe is one of the best moves in mk

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[Gesture Required Ahead]

Goin off topic here a little bit, but Reptile seems like he has tons of hidden dirty shit. Do you think Reptile has been fully explored yet?

Yes but few actually exploit his weaknesses. You don't see many players capitalize on the frame gap between Elbow Dash.

 

[_xFriction]

Don't know about everyone else, but I'm enjoying the hell out this game.

says the superman player

 

[Compbros]

Unlike when I'm bane, feels like it takes 10 years.

But, correct me if I'm wrong, Bane has a MONSTROUS corner game so being able to push an opponent to the corner with any type of ease for this type of character would be......eck.

 

[RiBBz22]

I don't like it as much as MK but I still like it a lot and love breaking down all of the characters. I also think the game will become more technical after we have more time with it. What I really like about the game is how different all of the characters are and what I don't like is how OP some of the interactables are...

 

[RYX]

Yes but few actually exploit his weaknesses. You don't see many players capitalize on the frame gap between Elbow Dash.

It's really hard to react to a move as fast as that. You have to be anticipating it to punish it correctly and consistently.

 

[RYX]

But, correct me if I'm wrong, Bane has a MONSTROUS corner game so being able to push an opponent to the corner with any type of ease for this type of character would be......eck.

He has so many 50/50s lol. This character is ridiculously slept on.

 

[Critical-Limit]

But, correct me if I'm wrong, Bane has a MONSTROUS corner game so being able to push an opponent to the corner with any type of ease for this type of character would be......eck.

lol, I'm not asking for REALLY small stages for bane.

I was just comparing the pacing of the matches between injustice and SSBM.

 

[Gesture Required Ahead]

It's really hard to react to a move as fast as that. You have to be anticipating it to punish it correctly and consistently.

Full combo react to it, maybe.

But armoring or poking through it, no.

It's not like you're not going to press buttons after a blocked regular Elbow Dash anyways.