BnB, Max Damage, & Setup Combos Discussion [OLD THREAD. OUT-DATED]

[Rickyraws]

I love you. And I actually main HawkGirl...so I know how Frost players feel. It's gangsta being frost...or better yet...mafia.

Y-y...you...u-use....H-....H-...HAWKGIRL?!?!!?!??!


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Well comrade, I can't say I blame ya. If not for how badly Frost does against her, I actually think Hawkgirl's cool. Not as horribly downplayed as people made her out to be, but yeah. However, for her utter disrespect of Frostification, she can never be alright in my book any more. That's why I counter pick with Doomsday now

....I'm going to hell, aren't I?

 

[RunwayMafia]

Ok...so I'm not quite satisfied with my execution of Frost's reset...elaborate again on how you are doing the 22~Command Grab. I've hit 22 and then quickly go into DBF2...but it just doesn't "feel right"...Idk.

 

[AK Black Preon]

Could've been done already. Not sure but if it has. Blow me up about it.

 

[Turnbull]

Ok...so I'm not quite satisfied with my execution of Frost's reset...elaborate again on how you are doing the 22~Command Grab. I've hit 22 and then quickly go into DBF2...but it just doesn't "feel right"...Idk.

I usually input the down while inputting the second 2. Ie. 2,2+d - bf2. Even if u kinda mess up the 2 at the end or something, negative edge will often do it anyway.

 

[RunwayMafia]

I usually input the down while inputting the second 2. Ie. 2,2+d - bf2. Even if u kinda mess up the 2 at the end or something, negative edge will often do it anyway.

So you go 2, D, 2, BF+2 or D, 22 D, BF+2... I feel like such an idiot but it's just not as consistent as I'd like.

 

[Turnbull]

So you go 2, D, 2, BF+2 or D, 22, BF+2... I feel like such an idiot but it's just not as consistent as I'd like.

I go 2, 2 + d at the same time, then a quick bf2 at the end. basically what you were originally trying, but i input the d of dbf2 at the same time as the second 2 of 2,2. That's probably a really convoluted way of saying it haha. Basically I go 2, 2+d-bf2. The second part is all fast but i found myself being a lot more consistent when consciously trying to do 2,2+d-bf2, instead of 2,2 -dbf2. If that makes any sense lol

 

[RunwayMafia]

I go 2, 2 + d at the same time, then a quick bf2 at the end. basically what you were originally trying, but i input the d of dbf2 at the same time as the second 2 of 2,2. That's probably a really convoluted way of saying it haha. Basically I go 2, 2+d-bf2. The second part is all fast but i found myself being a lot more consistent when consciously trying to do 2,2+d-bf2, instead of 2,2 -dbf2. If that makes any sense lol

It does...I'm going to try it out now. Thank you

 

[RunwayMafia]

I go 2, 2 + d at the same time, then a quick bf2 at the end. basically what you were originally trying, but i input the d of dbf2 at the same time as the second 2 of 2,2. That's probably a really convoluted way of saying it haha. Basically I go 2, 2+d-bf2. The second part is all fast but i found myself being a lot more consistent when consciously trying to do 2,2+d-bf2, instead of 2,2 -dbf2. If that makes any sense lol

Oh holy hell...I just got it 3 times in a row. Thanks man.

 

[Turnbull]

Oh holy hell...I just got it 3 times in a row. Thanks man.

No problem, glad I could help.

 

[RunwayMafia]

No problem, glad I could help.

I find it easier (for me, anyway) doing it as an actual input...like actually hitting Down, then Back, then Forward...so to speak. I've been rolling it with my thumb this whole time and it wouldn't always come out.

 

[Turnbull]

I find it easier (for me, anyway) doing it as an actual input...like actually hitting Down, then Back, then Forward...so to speak. I've been rolling it with my thumb this whole time and it wouldn't always come out.

having release check on makes a difference lol

 

[Beck__]

I find it easier (for me, anyway) doing it as an actual input...like actually hitting Down, then Back, then Forward...so to speak. I've been rolling it with my thumb this whole time and it wouldn't always come out.

Yeah rolling thumb on mk controls don't work too often for grab. Best to practice actually hitting the directions precisely.

 

[RunwayMafia]

Yeah rolling thumb on mk controls don't work too often for grab. Best to practice actually hitting the directions precisely.

Well have negative edge off...so doing the ACTUAL pressing of down, back, forward 2 seems to be working. I'm just glad I'm getting it when I want it...you know? Awww Killer Frost... <3

 

[Konqrr]

A Frost player needs to take home a trophy.

I have a trophy for winning with Frost... well, it's a plaque, but still lol

 

[Rickyraws]

Well if 16 bit keeps playing the way he is, we might get one. PL, I'm sure, is not pleased. However, it's to be expected. He played my Frost, who also gave him trouble. Albeit at first.

 

[Big Pampering]

Im sure this has been asked before but how reliable is d2 as anti air working for you guys? Im used to wonderwomans d2 so I might be a bit spoiled.

 

[TimTim]

Are the combos in the OP optimized/practical.
I wan't to try out KF her Regime outfit is too godlike.

 

[xKhaoTik]

Im sure this has been asked before but how reliable is d2 as anti air working for you guys? Im used to wonderwomans d2 so I might be a bit spoiled.

Me and bit think her d2 is top 5 d2 in the game. It's really good. I don't get why people are downplaying it lol. And even if that doesn't work, mbf3 is amazing as well

Not to mention, her d2 is 10 and safe.

 

[16 Bit]

Here is something I used at UFGT with great success. After a regular command grab you get a hard knockdown and dash up slide OTGs. They cannot jump, backdash or do a wakeup attack if timed correctly. With the exception of a wakeup super, which can only be done by pressing 2+3+mb not the regular way. It's weird. So basically you can end a combo with grab and dash up slide is a free check. So then you start doing dash up f+3. They can only get out of that by doing a wakeup attack or blocking. They cannot backdash or jump out. So you can see how good this is. It's a guessing game between taking a 50/50 and doing a likely unsafe wakeup attack. This is why at UFGT I was often ending meterless combos with regular command grab.

 

[That__John__Guy]

Well if 16 bit keeps playing the way he is, we might get one. PL, I'm sure, is not pleased. However, it's to be expected. He played my Frost, who also gave him trouble. Albeit at first.

Yeah, mad props to GGA 16 Bit for putting Our Lady in the top 10! That was a brutal field.

 

[Law Hero]

Well if 16 bit keeps playing the way he is, we might get one. PL, I'm sure, is not pleased. However, it's to be expected. He played my Frost, who also gave him trouble. Albeit at first.

I can never tell when he's being serious, but Reo did compare Frost to MK9 Kabal.

Think there's any truth to that or is it just goofiness and exaggeration?

 

[That__John__Guy]

I can never tell when he's being serious, but Reo did compare Frost to MK9 Kabal.

Think there's any truth to that or is it just goofiness and exaggeration?

AFAIK, what distinguishes Kabal is that he has absolutely no bad MUs. He's equal or better against everyone. So, only if we think KF has no bad MUs.

 

[RunwayMafia]

So do you guys ever use F23? I really like it but it's so damn slow...when do you guys use it? (if at all). Also...do you ever use her command grab outside of combos?

 

[TimTim]

Am I understanding this correctly the reset is MB freeze into j.1 f112 trait (for a second) f3 or b1
b1u3 u3 u3 22 slide f112 db2 40%
f3 same followup 39%
Both super easy.

 

[xKhaoTik]

So far, me and bit have placed top 16 with her at two very stacked majors. We are aiming for top 8 and better. Anyone care to join?