Strategy The Boy Wonder! -- Nightwing General Discussion Thread

[DuskAlloy]

Probably gonna start using 223 ender. That hard knockdown gives enough time to dash in/cross -up or SS into special to stuff wake-up or you can dash in.

What combo do you use to end it? I always end with flip kick for hard knock down.

 

[KombatNerd]

What combo do you use to end it? I always end with flip kick for hard knock down.

Mostly been using j2, f213~escrima fury, f3, j2, 223 and i'm sure there's a dmg sacrifice. Gotta practice the other bnb starters to get a feel for it.. If that's what you weren't asking, I mostly ended combos with 4~SS or j3~WD for dmg.

 

[DuskAlloy]

Mostly been using j2, f213~escrima fury, f3, j2, 223 and i'm sure there's a dmg sacrifice. Gotta practice the other bnb starters to get a feel for it.. If that's what you weren't asking, I mostly ended combos with 4~SS or j3~WD for dmg.

The kd is nice but i think it might be better to end with flip kick, you get more damage and the same set up

 

[KombatNerd]

The kd is nice but i think it might be better to end with flip kick, you get more damage and the same set up

Yea, it seems kinda gimmicky

 

[DuskAlloy]

Yea, it seems kinda gimmicky

The flip kick or 223?

 

[KombatNerd]

The flip kick or 223?

223

 

[DuskAlloy]

223

I just dont think the damage is worth the trade imo

 

[DocCeaser]

You guys know 223 can be rolled if you use it during a juggle right?

 

[DuskAlloy]

You guys know 223 can be rolled if you use it during a juggle right?

Either way we established that it is a gimmick even if it didnt lol

 

[KombatNerd]

You guys know 223 can be rolled if you use it during a juggle right?

learned that minutes ago.

 

[HighOnPCP]

I'll just copy paste this real quick

Sup Dickheads , so Aris (Avoiding the puddle) posted this vid here showing some tech that let's you special cancel normals on whiff on the opponents wakeup...seems to be something that was in MK9 also.

I think Nightwing could benefit from this alot, flipkick, maybe even scatter bomb come to mind, so yeah have at it FIND ALL THE TECH!

 

[DocCeaser]

I was messing with that earlier today against lightning cage. Sadly the only escrima wake-up attack that beat it was mb flip kick and escrima fury. Regular flip kick dodged it but whiffed.

 

[HighOnPCP]

escrima fury BEAT it? isn't that like, awesome?

 

[Georgie]

Dudes, whats the deal with J.2 are you + on block or -? i was messing around today in the lab with flash 6f reversal and i was beating it out with j.2 F213.

 

[DocCeaser]

escrima fury BEAT it? isn't that like, awesome?

Actually yeah. Can't they just block instead though? The timing is kinda weird for escrima fury to actually beat it though.

 

[Georgie]

Actually yeah. Can't they just block instead though? The timing is kinda weird for escrima fury to actually beat it though.

Yeah im testing that right now, kali fury seems pretty inconsistent.

 

[HighOnPCP]

I only watched the vid once didn't he say it was some kind of option select? like if the do something the special will come out if not nothing happens, only your meaty normal will hit? if not then fury would indeed be a horrible option

 

[DocCeaser]

Yeah im testing that right now, kali fury seems pretty inconsistent.

Yeah it is. Sometimes I get it like 5 times in a row and other times I get beat on every attempt.

 

[Georgie]

I only watched the vid once didn't he say it was some kind of option select? like if the do something the special will come out if not nothing happens, only your meaty normal will hit? if not then fury would indeed be a horrible option

With D1xxFury if the opponent doesn't wake up you fury still comes out and you know... punished hard. However with B1xxdb3 if the opponent doesn't wake up the full string comes out and if he wakes up flipkick comes out making it a true option select.

 

[DocCeaser]

I only watched the vid once didn't he say it was some kind of option select? like if the do something the special will come out if not nothing happens, only your meaty normal will hit? if not then fury would indeed be a horrible option

I think the special only won't come out if they backdash. The problem is the only time escrima fury tends to beat it is if you cancel very early. It has to be meaty enough that they can't backdash.

 

[HighOnPCP]

aww man I thought we just got something awesome as dick players, bummer lol
I think I'll hit the lab with him these days again...I feel if we search hard enough there is some cheap stuff to be found

 

[DocCeaser]

While messing with this stuff I noticed that you can do a meaty d12 to kinda bait lightning cage and recover fast enough to block it.

 

[Saitsu]

MB Flip Kick is a fine use for that. Already a mixup and safe on its own, now it punishes wakeups (at least for Lightning Cage)? It would pretty much mean, at least in the BA example, all he can do is block and hope he's blocking the right way, which of course will open up our other crap in Escrima.

I want research on every decent wakeup attack in the game. Let's see what we can beat.

 

[Georgie]

After more testing, i found out we can't beat lanterns might.

 

[alexgators1]

What do you guys normally do after a d1 2?